mig welding cast iron

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 07:35 PM
  #1  
SuperDuude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
From: Arcadia, CA, USA
Default mig welding cast iron

Is it possible to mig weld a cast iron part?

I want to ghetto right my sways by mig welding some suspension washers to EG front LCAs, so I can bolt my sways to it... will the cast iron LCA hold if I mig weld it?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 07:42 PM
  #2  
90DALS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From: columbus, ohio, usa
Default

ive mig'd 304L SS sched 40 pipe to an HF manifold before. thats Cast....

oh, and i had a MIG with Flux (not gas) so if IT can do it, another mig (with gas or not) should be able to do it.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 07:43 PM
  #3  
90DALS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
From: columbus, ohio, usa
Default

also, my father works for honda of america and got me some of their welding books, they say you can weld cast, but follow these steps

pre-heat (use your over or a torch, i used my oven)
weld
post-heat (i used my oven again)
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 08:52 PM
  #4  
snoochtodanooch's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,864
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey, USA
Default Re: (90DALS)

i wouldn't suggest mig welding cast iron. Some people have success, but most do not. The only successful cases of mig welding cast i have seen have been on large farm equipment and by very skilled welders. Best bet would be to TIG weld it, and you should have lots of success there. Another great option is to Braze the cast iron.

There are several odd things about cast that you have to consider when welding or more likely brazing it also. It does need to be preheated; an oven works well, as does a propane torch. When you prep the cast, as in if it has a crack, and you are grooving the crack, you must finish the prep by using a stainless steel wire brush to get off the dust. it is sometimes described as an almost graphite type coating that can screw with the weld. it really doesn't need to be preheated, it needs to be brought back to room temperature slowly, as in 7 or 8 hours. Sand, fiberglass insulation, or lime work great.

From what i have seen 90% of the time, MIG welding cast only causes future problems. I have seen manifolds crack like crazy once they have been mig welded. After that, the cracks are contagious as people try to fix them with more mig welding. Mig weld is just too stiff for cast, causing it to crack.

depending on what you are doing, mig would be ultimately the last option. for the lca's, i would try and find someone local who can tig weld well. That would ensure that the LCA's won't break

You could braze it, but people around here seem to hate brazing. I trust braze with my life, and would do it without fear. Just some suggestions. But really, i wouldn't mig it. Too prone to cracking.

Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004 | 09:17 PM
  #5  
snoochtodanooch's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,864
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey, USA
Default Re: (snoochtodanooch)

if you have more questions pm me and i have a bunch or resources on welding cast
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2004 | 04:36 AM
  #6  
SuperDuude's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
From: Arcadia, CA, USA
Default Re: (snoochtodanooch)

thanx for the reply guys.

What's the pre-heat temp if I use the an oven?
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2004 | 08:08 AM
  #7  
snoochtodanooch's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,864
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey, USA
Default Re: (SuperDuude)

full on, like 450
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PhilStubbs
Welding / Fabrication
5
May 1, 2013 04:31 PM
andyvaj
Welding / Fabrication
5
Sep 2, 2007 05:55 PM
TurboEM1
Welding / Fabrication
6
Mar 11, 2006 08:46 PM
Flashmn
Welding / Fabrication
7
Oct 31, 2005 03:44 PM
whackassfawker
Welding / Fabrication
8
Aug 16, 2004 08:54 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:48 AM.