Is A D16Z6 swap better than a B16 Swap. Can i put a VTEC head on the D16Z6 so that it can have VTEC? I heard the D16 will kill any B16 no problems"I heard this". please help.

 

 

Ba4 why cant you just answer his ******* question you jackass

 

No a b16 is a better swap. Sohc is inferior. My friend was put a swap sohc swap in in ef and it was still pretty slow. A b16a will run a 14 out of the box . Sohc vtec will run like a high 15 if your lucky. This is stock for stock.

 

14flat?

 

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The Z6 already have VTEC.

 

ok... 1.6 sohc vtech vs. 1.6 dohc vtech you shouldnt have to ask. but the b16 is hands down a better swap than the z6

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b-clubspecII &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok... 1.6 sohc vtech vs. 1.6 dohc vtech you shouldnt have to ask. but the b16 is hands down a better swap than the z6 </TD></TR></TABLE>

VTEC not VTECH!

Lately it seems that there isn't much price difference between a B16A1 or a D16Z6 but the cost involved for swapping is greater...i would just get the B16 and call it a day! my old 91 Si with First gen b16 on a 75shot of zex,act clutch,shaved flywheel, and 14" slicks ran consistent 13.2's!

 

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honda-tech has the best search engine in any forum ive been apart of all his questions are one search away

infact u moron why dont u answer his question instead of posting that, why u cant answer it? go back to buying apc filters at pepboys, change ur oil while ur at it seeing thats probably the most u could do

 

hondatech's search is the WORST

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dacaveman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No a b16 is a better swap. Sohc is inferior. My friend was put a swap sohc swap in in ef and it was still pretty slow. A b16a will run a 14 out of the box . Sohc vtec will run like a high 15 if your lucky. This is stock for stock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Shut the **** up and quit spreading misinformation.

Most "1st" gen b16's that you get (obd0) will run like **** and need a rebuild because they've been sitting at junkyards/importers for the last 10 years. Goodluck running 14's with a busted *** motor.

A z6 or y8 however, usually have lower miles since they are newer, and available here in the states.

Z6 not barely breaking 15's is horseshit. I ran a 15.3 in my 91 Si hatch with i/h/e. I got the motor $200, and the i/h/e for about $250. I'd like to see someone do a full b16 swap with bolton's for $450.

 

LOL that is really , funny i have one of those old *** B16As, and i have had 4 SOHC d-series engines....my Z6 with IHE ran about what yours did....but my B16A with the same mods has not hit the track....but i have taken out a GSR that runs 14.7 at the track by 2 car lenghts...take it for what it is worth to you..it comes down to the driver, tuning, and a bunch of other crap, but i bet a B16 will take a beating better than a Z6..

 

for the $ and simplicty of it, a D16Z6 is the way to go. Or even better a D16A6 block with a built Z6 head (high compression, then add a cam). Someone on here is running a 14.3 with a D16Z6 with a ZEX Stage 2 cam, intake, header and exhaust in a 91 CRX Si

 

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Shut the **** up and quit spreading misinformation.

Most "1st" gen b16's that you get (obd0) will run like **** and need a rebuild because they've been sitting at junkyards/importers for the last 10 years. Goodluck running 14's with a busted *** motor.

A z6 or y8 however, usually have lower miles since they are newer, and available here in the states.

Z6 not barely breaking 15's is horseshit. I ran a 15.3 in my 91 Si hatch with i/h/e. I got the motor $200, and the i/h/e for about $250. I'd like to see someone do a full b16 swap with bolton's for $450. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so when an engine sits inside its like putting miles on it? 99% of 1st gen b16s ive seen still had zinc coating on all the bolts and looked brand new. depends where you get em from though

 

yeah man....props...but i tell you....i have blown more d-series than anyone i know....they are great little motors..until you get too much gas through em...then you will wash out your pistons rings fast... i have beat to death in the last 2 years

D15B1 I/H/E
D15B2 I/H/E
D15B7 I/H/E
D15B7 I/H/E then added Z6 head....
I also had a another D15B2 and D16A6 sitting in the kitchen being rebuilt...but i got the B16 and got rid of all of those


they all ran great...i beat many a car....**** even kept up with a lot of B16 hatches till 3rd gear, and even beat a 99 Si from a rolling start...but they wear out really fast.unless you do internal work..they are economotors.....after being hard headed i listened to my shop and swapped in a B16...ITR cams, I/H/E, VAFC, OBX-R FPR.....you think that **** was expensive....but add up all the **** i did plus the price of the engines..and all the little **** i did with each swap....just to end up with a 14 second car...i should listened and got the B16 in the first place....
I mean opening the hood and seeing this is kewl is hell.....


but at the end of the day...having an engine that will take a little more of a beating...is more satifactory...not knocking your D, but look into the blocks and work that goes into the series 2-300 HP Ds that you will see..the 1000+ spent on making it bullet proof makes up for the difference when you can get a fully balanced engine from the honda factory....D are not internally balanced, where as Bs are....if you dont believe that one, take a cheap harmonic balancer and run the hell out of the D with it on...DOHC engines are made to rev higher, I have seen beat on B last 200,000 plus with regular maintenance....**** my B have been in for 8 months now....granted i dont beat on it like i did the Ds...it just keeps getting better and better....just something to think about...the mods are more expensive..but you are investing in an engine that will last longer...and can hit 13's in "stock" form just my .02...and this is coming from an oldschool D fan...Loved em till i left em








Modified by daidilus at 1:14 PM 11/7/2004

 

that is the worst spray job ive ever seen! you ruined the thread too, fix your pictures!

 

LOL that was the point....i wanted that engine to look crappy..i hated it....not to mention...that is a a before after side by side...that is one picture LOL!! hahaha, iwould fix it..but i am at work, no photoshop

 

in no way is a z6 swap gonna cost as much as a b16a swap....i have like $500 in my motor which i got for free, not very often you see b16's given away for nothing, and i run low 14's, ive got 2 friends with b16a swaps in there crx's both have i/h/e one runs 14.9 the other ran 14.7, i race my friends gsr with i/e and 50 shot and we were dead even the whole time.......but if were going stock vs. stock b16 is better but the price is the difference.

 

what i was talking about..if you are as hardcore racer as i was....add up the costs of my 6 d-series engines..that i got to drive about 6 months of constant beating on....my B16 was cheaper..but i did use to be ***** to the wall everywhere i drove on those

 

b16=over rated

 

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as i ask every person that says that......have you actually owned a B16? I used to say that until i owned one, and went through every option, i almost got a DOHC ZC instead....but all the people i know that swapped to a ZC are dissapointed as hell...well till they turbo...they are kinda overrated..but do some minor work...i put ITR cams in mine and ****....that makes up for the no torque situation....i mean yeah that is an expensive mod.....but worth every penny....i have let more than one person drive my car after i put the cams in, they noticed the difference immediatly...and they had driven it before...
both D and B have advantages and disadvantages....this should not be a pissing contest...if you dont have any money....Ds are great little engines....truth be told i was actually given 2 of my engines for nothing...but i can argue also...if you have the hookup....**** i got my B16 for 1000 bux... ke ke ke

 

Don't get me wrong, good condition b-series motors are better...I'm just saying for the money/comparison at hand, the z6 is better

 

damn yoz.. that flat black looks nice. Car will be even more solid if you Drop it like its hot to the ground, and get some 88-89 Tails

 

she used to slammed


then i got this



sorry i live in a rural town with shitty road....3 headers later....i realize..i like i good undented header....and i dont drive an autox track to work..hell i even got rid of those gay *** revos that were 2 inches wider than stock. slowing my car down and shixx....i am just out to cruise in the sleeper now

I tell you, that you are all right...if you are a baller on a budget...get a Z6/Y8....i have lost 36LBS since I got this swap..why?!?!? the swap was a little up there.. mods are hella expensive..and when **** breaks...damn.....
you got money..get a B...you don't....get a D...i aint chiming in no more on this one....peas

 

yea i have actully own a b16 and know many people with them. if you build a b16 there worth it but on a budget a z6 is alot cheaper. it just seems like every ef has a b16 now theses days. ask any ricer what motor they want to put in there honda and they will tell you a b16 or a type r motor . i just think people have played out the b16 were i live . to both the b16 and the d16.