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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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has anyone seen this done or dose anyone have this done??! i would like to see some pics and let me know how the whole swap went, how much hp gane? reason im askin is because ive been offered a good deal on a h22 please let me know thanks for your help
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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What model teg? I wouldn't really think anything would line up. The parts don't just snap together. Think new mounts, radiator, hoses. Plus, I think the H22 is a heavier motor. Stick to a B-series swap or an LS bottom end with VTEC heads. You can get similar or even better gains with a lot less hassle. That being said, I'm sure it's been done successfully. I'm thinking it'd be a waste of $$$ though. Just my .02
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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it is the torque the h-22 has that b-series don't.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Yeah, but if you build up an LS with boost, it has pretty decent torque; and I don't think the cost/labor of the conversion would be worth it. But I've never actually done it, so I don't know for sure.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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i think the main thing with the h22 swap in the transmission and now there are adapter plates where you can use a bseries tranny on a h22. i haven't doneit but i have heard that it is very hard swap into a g2 but i'm not too sure about a g3 integra
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Its been done. Just search.....

I agree with the above. If you got the cash then just boost a b-series. I've heard a few different mixed things with the h22 in a teg and I know that a few things have been mentioned about the suspension and weight shifting of the car. Because of course the h22 outweighs the b-series engines. This is probably one of the few things I don't search about or care about so ill leave this one alone.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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it has been done...some dude around my city has a DC2 with a h22a swap...
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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I have a 98 RS with JDM H22A.

RS to H22A was a big jump in power and torque and I REALLY love the setup.

If I had a GSR to start ? I would have just boosted it instead.

Let me know if you want a parts list and I'll put one up for you. (quite a few items)

A few things from the responses I've seen so far:

1) You don't need a new rad
2) I found the increase weight on the car to be very minimal.
3) Friends of mine have some very stable frankenstein (LS/VTEC) setups and they ended up costing WAY more than my H22 swap (by the time everything was done right tuned and running smooth)
4) I'm pretty sure Haasport makes a kit for H22 in a G2 now.

Overall ? I really like this swap.

Si



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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Since you replied to the PM, here is a list of parts you'll need for this swap:

- Prepare yourself for driving without AC (I hear it can done so don't totally rule this out)

- Motor (assuming it comes with ECU w/complete harness cut at the ECU, intake/exhaust manifold, tranny if not add these to list)

- After market motor mounts (I went with HCP, Newman@jdmsh!t.com can hook you up with those)

- 90-93 Accord mid shaft (unless your motor comes with it's own H22 midshaft, this choice will also affect what axles you need to use)
(A) If you used the 90-93 Accord midshaft, you need a set of 90-93 Integra axles
(B) If you use the H22 midshaft, you'll most likely need 86-89 Integra mids/outers with 92+ inner joints ... hybrid axles.

PS I don't care what HCP's website says, unbless you want some serious binding, do not re-use your 94-01 axles)

- If you want to keep power steering (this will also be dictated by what mounts you use) you'll need a 97+ Prelude ps pump (97+ for clearance reasons, you can reuse the 97-01 Teggy main ps line, *disclaimer* My 98 main ps line hooked up to my 97+ lude ps pump perfect)

- Aftermarket clutch to withstand the newfound power (I got an Exedy stage 1, don't chince on this, friend of mine did the H22 swap and re-used the OEM one and blew it in 2 weeks, and dropping the tranny to get at the clutch in this setup means dropping the entire motor )

- Get your H22 flywheel resurfaced

- New exhaust (cat, resonator, muffler) While your at it, get all 2.5" stuff
(BTW, this setup without a resonator is LOUD)

(I've seen one guy re-use the stock exhaust but I'm not sure how, your new downpipe should not line up with a teggy's OEM exhaust)

- Whatever year of H22 you got, shifter assembly and linkage.

- New timming belt & water pump unless you are certain of mileage and it's not required. IMO, your better off just doing this and not worrying about it.

- New rad hoses

- Alternator/power steering belts

- All new fluids

- An OBD conversion harness if required (depending on motor and chassis OBD versions, you don't absolutely need this but it will cut your wiring down by 2 or 3 hours)

- A few various OEM Honda nuts and bolts

If I can think of anything I missed, I'll let you know, but this should be pretty complete. PM me your email addy if you want pics.

Si


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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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what year did you do a swap into simon98h22?
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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ls turbo will walk a h22-i'm talking stock too.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TIroneous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls turbo will walk a h22-i'm talking stock too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for posting something thats not related to the topic

but the H22 is alot of work for a DA body and a lil easier for a DC. but the power/tq output should be increased.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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why would a boosted ls beat an h22? my brother has dc2 with h22 with only i/h/e/fuelrail and a v-afc, and he stomped a gs-r built w/ turbo.. im slightly confused? he won by quite a few cars, 4 maybe 5 at 3rd gear<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TIroneous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls turbo will walk a h22-i'm talking stock too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thaiphob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for posting something thats not related to the topic

but the H22 is alot of work for a DA body and a lil easier for a DC. but the power/tq output should be increased.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think we are reffering to the DC body.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeVRe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would a boosted ls beat an h22? my brother has dc2 with h22 with only i/h/e/fuelrail and a v-afc, and he stomped a gs-r built w/ turbo.. im slightly confused? he won by quite a few cars, 4 maybe 5 at 3rd gear</TD></TR></TABLE>

Comon guys, we are comparing apples to oranges here, there are SO MANY variables!!
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the DA in HONDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what year did you do a swap into simon98h22?
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1995 JDM H22A into a 1998 Integra RS
Torque and horsepower are much improved not to mention the addtion of VTEC.

The job isn't that bad, as long as you have quality mounts. The longest part of this project is the wiring. The entire swap took ~30 hours and ~15 of those was on the wiring alone.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TIroneous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls turbo will walk a h22-i'm talking stock too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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h22 is NOT pratical to put in an integra. I mean can you guys honestly argue against that?
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TIroneous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 is NOT pratical to put in an integra. I mean can you guys honestly argue against that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did it, I love the power and torque, and it took me less than 3 days.

Pretty simple man, if you disagree, tell us why or at least give us some reasoning.

If you don't like what you read ? Stop replying/crapping on the thread.

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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what was I thinking. Yes, a h22 is easy to put into your integra and cost effective.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Quote, originally posted by TIroneous »
h22 is NOT pratical to put in an integra. I mean can you guys honestly argue against that?

I got a h22 in my da and i got no complaints. Mine took 5 months to do though. Yes I can honestly argue against you.

I hate when people say it wont work, or its not worth it. Dont post something you dont know for a fact. I read it and hear it all the time. Than when they see my car and go for a ride than they change their story.

I would go h22 you wont regrat it........


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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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i say, unless you need a new, complete swap because your engine is blown or whatever, use your money more cost effectively. if there's nothing wrong with your current motor, why not boost it instead of buying a complete swap?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeVRe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would a boosted ls beat an h22? my brother has dc2 with h22 with only i/h/e/fuelrail and a v-afc, and he stomped a gs-r built w/ turbo.. im slightly confused? he won by quite a few cars, 4 maybe 5 at 3rd gear</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rovigian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Comon guys, we are comparing apples to oranges here, there are SO MANY variables!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
translation: guy with the gsr turbo can't drive for ****.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TIroneous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what was I thinking. Yes, a h22 is easy to put into your integra and cost effective. </TD></TR></TABLE>

*shrug* was for me. Please make your point ....
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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i have a h22a in my gsr one reason i did its is because i sold my gsr motor for 2700 and bought my h22a for 1800 as far a boosting a ls my friend has one that runs 14.9 thats almost a sec slower then my car im happy with my swap and i like to beat cars knowing im NA
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