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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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My friend shtought of an idea yesterday about putting a wire from the psitive side of the battery right to the Vtec solonoid, hook a switch in between and BOOM you got a toggled vtec set-up.

I know it probably would throw tons of engine lights but would that work? Cause vtec needs the power to be turned on so if it is turned on by a switch at lower RPM wouldnt that make more power?

Just wondering i thought it was a good idea at about 2:45 in the morning...

Let me know
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Um no
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Hey slopoke, exatly like you said in your sig "Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface »
There was a day in this board when a question could get asked and answered. "

I asked a freakin question, just asnwer it or dont post at all damnit
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cons94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend shtought of an idea yesterday about putting a wire from the psitive side of the battery right to the Vtec solonoid, hook a switch in between and BOOM you got a toggled vtec set-up. I know it probably would throw tons of engine lights but would that work? Cause vtec needs the power to be turned on so if it is turned on by a switch at lower RPM wouldnt that make more power?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. You need to go research cam profiles and how they work. There is a reason VTEC is set to engage at a certain point in the rev range. It wouldn't make more power; rather, it would actually remove a significant amount of power from under the curve at the low end. VTEC is not a "power adder"; it simply maintains a constant torque curve into the high end of the rev range in order to keep the power curve climbing. Read up on it some time.

If something would "throw tons of engine lights," why would you even think it is a good idea to begin with? Multiple CELs would throw the engine into limp mode, negating any performance modifications in the first place.

And BTW, VTEC doesn't need just "power" to "turn on." There are several factors (including temperature, vehicle speed, engine speed, and oil pressure) that determine when and if VTEC should engage - and there are also several changes that occur simultaneously with the VTEC engagement to accompany it, which you would just be bypassing by attaching a switch to the solenoid.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wondering i thought it was a good idea at about 2:45 in the morning...

Let me know </TD></TR></TABLE>
No. It's moronic.

Search next time before posting.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Default Re: FREE Vtec BOOSTER! (Targa250R)

the above says it VERY well........
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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damn you mean "vtech" isnt a micro sized turbo on honda cars? heh. not serious btw
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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I did answer your question. No its not a good idea. In fact its one of the dumbest ideas I've heard of on this board.
Reasons:
1. How is hooking a toggle inline with your solenoid making a vtec booster?
2. You failed to mention if you were going to do this to a car thats already equipped with vtec, or if you just trying to wire it in. lol
3. Your basically dealing with 2 different cam profiles. Bigger cams usually get shitty gas milage, idle like crap, and only make power up top. Honda put the change over point where its at for a reason. So you get the best of both worlds. Just changing the vtec crossover point(especially with out messing with your fuel maps) is going to loose power.
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4. Who the f*ck wants to reach over and flip a switch everytime they reach 5k rpm and then turn it back off at lower rpm?

Is that good enough of an answer?

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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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"ya'll just mAd, cuz tonight Cons94 just got Served!"
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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To answer your question like you wanted. Yes you can hook a switch up to switch VTEC on whenever you want. It won't benefit you at all but there have been people who've done it. I knew someone that did it but they did it because they're solenoid wasn't activating at all so they hooked up a switch until they fixed the RPM switch that wasn't working.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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His question was "Will it make power?" and "Is it a good idea?"

Of course it could be done, but you could also wire your solenoid up to a Clapper and just slap yourself in the face anytime you want vtec to engage.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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um...
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slopoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">His question was "Will it make power?" and "Is it a good idea?"

Of course it could be done, but you could also wire your solenoid up to a Clapper and just slap yourself in the face anytime you want vtec to engage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I nominate this for the Funniest Post of The Month award I almost died laughing!
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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NO it not a good i dea and NO it won't make power... turn the Vtec to soon and your car will stall out...
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I nominate this for the Funniest Post of The Month award I almost died laughing!</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have no idea... I'm still coughing.

Do a search on how a Honda engine works buddie.
You think there's a smurf under your valve cover that makes everything work by magic?

Even if you could turn on VTEC at lower RPMs (which by wiring a powered toggle you still CANNOT) let's say you could because we got a small blue man living next to your cam. Why would you want lowered VTEC in the first place?

Anyways, thanks for the laugh.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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lol
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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let me turn on VTEC in idle....i want to hear those secondarys ROAR
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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You are soo smart, I want to be just like you . Actually, that is what I would have said. It is a good, complete, non-flaming post. Of course, an idea like that does need to be the winner of this month's funniest post. .

Oh, and by the way, do it just to see what happens. Then read up to find out what went wrong.

And also by the way, that was a joke. If you do it then you are officially BANNED.

-Shane
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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you sir, are an idiot. that is all
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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In case you didn't realize who that post was in respect to, look again. It was supposed to be to Targa250R, thank you very much. I was kidding around with him.

-Shane
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slopoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">His question was "Will it make power?" and "Is it a good idea?"

Of course it could be done, but you could also wire your solenoid up to a Clapper and just slap yourself in the face anytime you want vtec to engage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you are on to something here? It is inventive minds like this one who brought us the beer hat and spring shoes.... keep it up.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMHatch4Me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you sir, are an idiot. that is all </TD></TR></TABLE>

indeed, theres plenty of them in west chester
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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yep...thats the ht class of 2004 for ya
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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you could hook a blender into the wall, then stick your hand in there, and use the puree toggle switch instead.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cons94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend shtought of an idea yesterday about putting a wire from the psitive side of the battery right to the Vtec solonoid, hook a switch in between and BOOM you got a toggled vtec set-up.
more power?
</TD></TR></TABLE>

BOOM is right, LOL you would ground the crap out your battery and probably fry all your fuses and destroy the vtec solonoid.... ah man I read this stuff at work, mainly to make me laugh...all day long.
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