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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Car -- 92 Accord Lx

Problem -- Car shakes as if the axle is having issues. However both boots are just fine and no clicking. Replaced Drivers side upper ball joint because that was shot and for a second thought that fixed it. Nope. Anyone ever had something strange like this happen, what was a solution.

You feel it in the pedal but not in the steering wheel?? its just strange

I am thinking wheel bearing... what are all your thoughts?


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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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it sounds like a wheel bearing to me
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeamans17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it sounds like a wheel bearing to me</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever replaced yours?

Or has anyone?
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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Hard to say without test driving it.

Usually, wheel bearings will be noisy when going out. But then again. If you feel the vibration only in the pedal, and not in the steering wheel, i would look at other things first.

How are your tires?

How much vibration?

At what speeds?

Is it consistent vibration or does it increase with speed?

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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Ok good questions I was hoping someone would ask


The vibration only occurs when you are accelerating usually up a smaller incline.

All tires are fine except she has a flat spot on her passenger side front. Now dont jump on that bandwagon yet, this is a different shake then that one.

Could the tires just be way out of balance?
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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I don't jump on the bandwagon. I usually know what i am talking about when it comes to cars.

Hmmm... Vibration under load right????

Is it possible that your wheel lug nuts may be loose?

It is possible that the tires need balancing.

Does the engine vibrate when idling? Will your car vibrate violently???

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy_shovel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't jump on the bandwagon. I usually know what i am talking about when it comes to cars.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy_shovel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hmmm... Vibration under load right????

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Exactly !

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Is it possible that your wheel lug nuts may be loose?


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You could give me some credit. , no the wheels are tight.

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It is possible that the tires need balancing.

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maybe that is one of my thoughts

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy_shovel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Does the engine vibrate when idling? Will your car vibrate violently???

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I thought of that too. No vibrations out of the engine. *shrug*
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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Well, I know that if the tires are out of balance you sometimes get a shake at higher speeds. A buddy of mine has a Toyota truck that has a nasty shake at around 50-55. It's really only speed that makes it happen, it doesn't matter if it's under load or not.

So, does it do it when you are just coasting, if you let off the gas at freeway speeds does it still do it.

Now, if it is infact oonly doing this whle under load, I'd start to suspect soem kind of motor issue. I don't see what the engine being under load has to do with a tire balance issue or anything like that.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So, does it do it when you are just coasting, if you let off the gas at freeway speeds does it still do it.

Now, if it is infact oonly doing this whle under load, I'd start to suspect soem kind of motor issue. I don't see what the engine being under load has to do with a tire balance issue or anything like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It will do it when you are coasting too. It feels as if one of the axles is shot but they are both fine, we double checked them. Then we noticed her upper ball joint was shot so we replaced it and thought this fixed it but its still doing the shake.

It is definitely coming from either the supsension, wheel/tire, or somewhere close. It honestly doenst feel like engine.

Picture this --- it almost feels the same as when your rotors are shot and you brake at high speeds.. but in reverse its at low speeds

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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I'd guess the tires need to be balanced then.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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sounds like wheel bearing to me, mine started with a slight vibration and a week later there was violent vibration, once that started going it went very fast
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So, does it do it when you are just coasting, if you let off the gas at freeway speeds does it still do it.

Now, if it is infact only doing this while under load, I'd start to suspect some kind of motor issue. I don't see what the engine being under load has to do with a tire balance issue or anything like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Now if I am driving around town it does it very randomly. Mostly up hills and even more if the weight is on that side of the car. And if my car is cold it doesn't really do it. Its more a problem if I have been driving it all day. I have noticed it when I come to stop only if I have been driving it for a while.

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It is definitely coming from either the suspension, wheel/tire, or somewhere close. It honestly doesn't feel like engine.

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My thoughts exactly because I don't feel it in the steering wheel.

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Picture this --- it almost feels the same as when your rotors are shot and you brake at high speeds.. but in reverse its at low speeds

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That is a good way to describe it because it is like that rotation of wobble not the drive axle way of wobble.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twistedbydezign &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like wheel bearing to me, mine started with a slight vibration and a week later there was violent vibration, once that started going it went very fast</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it was a wheel bearing wouldn't you feel it a little in the steering wheel? Also wouldn't it do it all the time? A Bad wheel bearing isn't an intermittent type of thing.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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I need to get my winter tires put on soon anyways so I guess I will try that and see what happens if that doesn't work then I am clueless.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If it was a wheel bearing wouldn't you feel it a little in the steering wheel? Also wouldn't it do it all the time? A Bad wheel bearing isn't an intermittent type of thing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats whats i was thinking, but i wasnt sure. We will swap wheels and see if anything changes.. god damn hondas
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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god damn hondas </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey I did 90% of the work to my car last night with no major problems.

Atleast on a honda I can even change my own tire. You have to look at your owners manual. haha
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Atleast on a honda I can even change my own tire. You have to look at your owners manual. haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha Ha! I had to look at the manual this morning to figure how to turn on the defrost.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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Ha Ha! I had to look at the manual this morning to figure how to turn on the defrost. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha! The only thing I ever had to look at my manual for is the jack points, I knew where they were but it didn't look right so I double checked.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Haha! The only thing I ever had to look at my manual for is the jack points, I knew where they were but it didn't look right so I double checked. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, i felt pretty stupid. I dusted all the snow off and then sat in the car for 15 min. trying to figure out how in the hell to melt with frost off the windshield.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If it was a wheel bearing wouldn't you feel it a little in the steering wheel? Also wouldn't it do it all the time? A Bad wheel bearing isn't an intermittent type of thing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it wasnt intermittent, it started one day and kept getting worse until a week later the car felt like the entire suspension on that wheel was gonna fall off
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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It still does it just not as bad at it use to. Atleast we got one thing fixed.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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hmm..

we will check it on my lunch on "the hill" and see how it does.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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hmm..

we will check it on my lunch on "the hill" and see how it does. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya that will be the true test.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Tie rods. I'd inspect those before the wheel bearing.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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hmm.. haven't check them yet. Will do, thanks Gabe.
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