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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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Default Energy Suspension MASTER bushing kit? hard to install? need press?

well my car is a 93 and i think its time i change the bushings and may as well upgrade.

soooo i was thinking of buying the ES master bushing kit, my main concern is if its real hard to install (i have a personal mechanic but dont have a press) and if we would need a hydrolic press for some of them?

theres two versions of the ES bushings (black and red,red being stiffer?) CORRECT?

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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Energy Suspension MASTER bushing kit? hard to install? need press? (lucas569)

the bushing arent hard to install, its just takes alot of time to take apart your whole suspension, and yes you will need a press to get your old ones out and to get the es bushing in.
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 10:59 PM
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hummm, so tis isnt something i could do on a weekend in my driveway eh? any way around using the press? hows about using a vise? (i know it sounds stupid but im just asking)

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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 11:03 PM
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Default Re: Energy Suspension MASTER bushing kit? hard to install? need press? (lucas569)

I heard you could torch them out with one of those cheep torches you buy at wal-mart. Don't know how safe it is though.
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Old Dec 21, 2001 | 11:08 PM
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actually ive seen that done before, but if i need a press to get them out,wouldnt i need a press to get the new ones in?
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Old Dec 22, 2001 | 09:14 AM
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Old Dec 22, 2001 | 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Energy Suspension MASTER bushing kit? hard to install? need press? (lucas569)

actually ive seen that done before, but if i need a press to get them out,wouldnt i need a press to get the new ones in?
no you do not need a hydraulic press to get them IN. but you need one to get the old ones out.
the polyurethane bushings do NOT have a metal sleeve on the outside diameter, but the OEM bushings do in most applications. that metal sleeve is a total biznitch to install because you have to lign it up perfectly while you press it in. I installed most of my ES polyurethane master kit without a press, I just used a vice, or a long bolt/nut with washers to squeeze the bushing halves together into whatever spot. if your susp bolts will come out easily, then this can be a weekend project if you can put your teg up on blocks and remove everything at once. then take the parts to a machine shop to get the old OEM bushings removed (yes there are some you can burn out and some you can rip out then hacksaw the outer metal sleeeve). If your machine shop charges you a lot, you can install the new bushings usually easily on your own, otherwise its easy and faster if they do it, although make sure they lube the bushings on EVERY surface that touches metal, including the inner sleeves that are metal.

good luck chum!
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Old Dec 22, 2001 | 11:15 PM
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thanks owen,good info.
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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 01:18 PM
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hey, i have a G2 also and i got the Master kit sittin in my room waiting to be put in...But damn, as for a DIY, i'm just gonna pay my friend 200 bucks and a case of corona to put them in...I also got the motor mount inserts to go with it..I cant wait till its done...
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Old Dec 24, 2001 | 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Energy Suspension MASTER bushing kit? hard to install? need press? (tightDA6)

You can do most of it w/o a press as stated, but when you need the press, if you know someone that works somewhere w/a forklift... I've got one @ my work and we put the part on a 2x6 (as opposed to sitting it on concrete floor) and lined the bushing up on top of it. Then we slowly lowered the fork down onto the bushing and popped it in. It was real easy and quick as long as you have someone to make sure they are lined up and someone to work the fork. Said ghetto, but it works good.

I haven't done the whole kit b/c I was worried about how much vibration their would be... can anyone enlighten me how much of a difference their is after installing the whole kit? thanks
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