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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Not sure if he is an HT member or not, but just a heads up:
I was selling a set of rims on Ebay. I had them listed on here as well as ClubSi. After the auction ended (rims unsold) I was contacted by:

civicryder8@hotmail.com

He said he wanted my rims. I talked to him a couple times through email. Everything seemed fine except I thought it was weird he didn't ask for the rest of the pictures I had of them. I only had one shitty picture of all of them listed and stated I had more, detailed pictures. He sent out a money order and I since recieved it. We have remained in contact the whole time because of unclear shipping methods, but I was noticing that some things were a little off. I finnally sat down and looked over all the stuff. He wrote me a note included with the money order:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Scammer Dirtbag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> please send the silver mugen rnrs rims to my engine builder/tuners address, my parent not to fond of my spending my money on imports anymore Ryan Cruz, 27077 Hidaway ave. Apt #9, Canyon Country, Ca 91351</TD></TR></TABLE>

The address on the envelop everything came in is:

Ryan Cruz
27101 Tolima Dr
Canyon Country, CA 93151


In one of our emails I explained to him how If I send the rims to a business address the shipping will be cheaper, but he said he doesn't have one. Didn't he already say send them to his "Tuner?" Hmm....

So today come to look at the money order. Says right on the front "Payable Through Citizens State Bank of Clara City, Clara City, MN" WTF? Now I'm really looking. he didnt sign it, put his address, and the front isnt monochromic like they are supposed to be. Now I feel it and see that the part where the amount is listed is thinker. Shine it up through a light and bingo: $1.00 money order. This kid pasted "$910.00" paper on top of it.

Good thing I wasn't even close to getting them shipped out

So I'm still bullshitting with the guy just to waste his time. Lead him on a little. In the mean time, does anybody know who I can get on this guys *** about this stuff? FBI possibly? Forging money orders can't just be a slap on the wrists...I love sticking it to people in my spare time

Here's a pic of the evidence:


Just a heads up. Anybody in this area that can drop by and give this kid an ***-kicking? I'll pay you handsomely

Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Wow thats crazy. He actually thought you wouldn't find out thats its fake. Damn scammers these days. You can't even put more then $500 on a moneyorder His name sounds familiar. Would you know his Ebay name?
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Call the company that issued the Money Order and report that a it was tampered

and while your waiting for them to call "FBI" to investigate, you might want to call the local pd in santa clarita & ask what they can do for you. They could visit ryan..

here's the website

http://scvsheriff.com/
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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yeah, this mother ****** tried to scam me also. let me know if you find anything out with the fbi or secret service? he gave me the story about shipping it to his aunt's house because he is out of state for school. https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1



Old Oct 28, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Hahha get a close up pic of the part of the money order where he pasted $910

Bump so that this **** gets what he deserves
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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holy ****!!! thats a good fake, what does the one for 910 look like, any close ups.

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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Guy is wondering where his parts are.

But, yeah he's wasting like $0.50 each time he tries to scam a person and the quality of the MO looks like ****.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Looks like he tried to scam the wrong person! Catch his sorry ***!
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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yep thats why even with money orders I cash them and hold parts for a few days. I always always make sure the funds clear before I ship out parts! Glad you recognized it was a $1 money order!
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Thanks for the BUMPS

That's funny as **** he tried this with someone else. Yours looks even worst than mine bro

I'll post close ups of the money order tommorow, as well as make a couple phone calls

I hope buddy has a good lawyer

EDIT: and oh, this is obviously some kid if he keeps trying to scam Honda parts...let alone the fact that it's the shittiest forged money order evAr. Please spread the word if you know anyone who he tried to "scam", as well as some contact information. And hey SPOON EG, would you be up for helping me out with this? I'm all they way over on this coast, but if you or the other guy in your thread that got "scammed" by this kid would be up for stopping by, I'd gladly pay for gas or whatever. I'll send you a money order (no actually paypal )
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Dang, good catch. I wonder how many poor souls he's already scammed.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dang, good catch. I wonder how many poor souls he's already scammed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably not many if he's still trying and with those disgusting MOs.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wild0ne21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep thats why even with money orders I cash them and hold parts for a few days. I always always make sure the funds clear before I ship out parts! Glad you recognized it was a $1 money order!</TD></TR></TABLE> same here my friend. Anyways this guy is in canyon country, not too far from here. Hope he gets owned by the PD. What a POS he is.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Good Job
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lax1185 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the BUMPS

That's funny as **** he tried this with someone else. Yours looks even worst than mine bro

I'll post close ups of the money order tommorow, as well as make a couple phone calls

I hope buddy has a good lawyer

EDIT: and oh, this is obviously some kid if he keeps trying to scam Honda parts...let alone the fact that it's the shittiest forged money order evAr. Please spread the word if you know anyone who he tried to "scam", as well as some contact information. And hey SPOON EG, would you be up for helping me out with this? I'm all they way over on this coast, but if you or the other guy in your thread that got "scammed" by this kid would be up for stopping by, I'd gladly pay for gas or whatever. I'll send you a money order (no actually paypal )</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah, definitely. just let me know what i can do when the "authorities" contact you or anything of that sort.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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bump this **** up for the scammer
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Catch this PuNk!!!!!
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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You guys should send him boxes full of horse ****!! Man thats some fucked up ****.. i wonder if he was able to fool anyone with those money orders
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by unltdacc12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys should send him boxes full of horse ****!! Man thats some fucked up ****.. i wonder if he was able to fool anyone with those money orders</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe some human **** too, some f**king diarrea
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwoPointZero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Maybe some human **** too, some f**king diarrea
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Careful, that's funny but you can get in trouble for shipping biohazardous substances too...

I recommend this to all sellers: Stipulate that you will ONLY accept USPS money orders. It's the only one that's the same everywhere and you can have your local Post Office verify it before even trying to cash it. It's easy to tell if they are fake or tampered with. The dollar amount is printed plus stamped in raised numbers. For buyers, it's cheaper than a bank check or other type of m.o. anyways so it's better for everyone.

I've had several people try scamming me, one of those African scams where they want to buy your car sight unseen, overpay by 5 or 6 grand with a fake money order and ask you to refund the difference! I talked to the Secret Service, they said that's getting very common. Also had some who want to pick up the product in person with a money order. You have to get an MO in cash, why not just bring cash to the pickup? Always be suspicious of that. Only take cash for pickups, Postal MO for shipments.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klungemonger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Careful, that's funny but you can get in trouble for shipping biohazardous substances too...

I've had several people try scamming me, one of those African scams where they want to buy your car sight unseen, overpay by 5 or 6 grand with a fake money order and ask you to refund the difference! I talked to the Secret Service, they said that's getting very common. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL

I get at least 1 email per week with that West Africa ****. I can tell right off the bat when they first email me, and i tell them all to eat a fat dick.
Also, if people are stupid enough to make these cheezy MO's, then there are people out there stupid enough to send the **** out before cashing it.
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