Well i was having starter problems a while back....i finally got it running after making new grounds and hot wires fir the starter and fuse box. So this morning i drove it all over the place running some errands...and it started perfectly every time. So i come home..watch a little tv...ate a massive sandwich. Then im off to my next errand...going to illusions to get a some screens.

So i go out to the car...turn the key and get nothing. Just clicking like before. So i pop the hood and check all the connections from my new grounds...and theyre fine. So i decide to check the clutch pedal switch like some of you suggested. Let me tell ya...that son of a bitch is impossible to get out. I just cant get my hands up there to get to it.

So i keep trying to get it for about an hour...then i say F@CK IT and take a brake. While im leaning against the car smoking a cigarette, i look down into the engine bay and see that my hot wire for the alternator is corroded all to hell. So i decide to replace it since i still had some cable left over from the grounds i made. I go to take off the alt wire and it just comes loose...puts up no resistance at all. I look down and the damn bolt had broken off. I didnt even turn it hard...it just snapped. I looked at the nut and it was completely melted to the bolt.

So now i have to take off my damn dash to get to that clutch pedal switch just to check and see if thats the problem or not. AND i have to get a new alternator...which sucks because i have $0. I just bought a starter that i didnt even need so im strapped . Sorry about the long post...but DAMN this is starting to really **** me off.

Oh yea-input on any of my problems would be much appreciated

 

damn man.. that sucsk ***.. look for lose grounds.. maybe the thermo stat housing ground.
anyways good lucks man. i feel ur pain i paid $650 for a supposive rebuilt jdm ys1 and it had 2 bad gears in it thts gonna cost me another $250 or so. and the damn thing isnt even lsd.

 

U can get to the clutch switch without removing dash. Hell, ive replaced the enitre pedal assembly before with the dash still in place. Try finding someone with small hands and skinny arms.

 

Yea im pretty pissed. I checked all the grounds to make sure that is wasnt the problem. It has to be either the clutch pedal switch or the starter relay. If its the clutch pedal switch then im not too worried...but if its the starter relay then im pretty worried because i alraedy have to buy a damn alternator...and theres no telling how much that starter switch is.

 

Check your battery voltage. Should be 12.5 to 12.6 volts or its in need of charging.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">U can get to the clutch switch without removing dash. Hell, ive replaced the enitre pedal assembly before with the dash still in place. Try finding someone with small hands and skinny arms. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ill be hard pressed to find someone skinnier than me . Do you remember how the clip is on the switch? It feels like theres something that you have to push on top of it and pull it out...but its hard to tell because i couldnt see it.

 

I forgot how the clip is. Im sure i still have the switch with connector out in the garage somewhere but its raining here now and i aint tryin to get all wet...lol
Just fiddle with it and feel for it. OR what u can do is, get some scissors or something and cut the 2 wires that go to the switch. Then connect those wires together. I know...there is no room up there but u can probably stretch them a bit.

 

maybe its just me but it sounds like its only ur alternator..... a bad altenator can cause ur car to die like that.. Before getting ur hands dirty, replace the alternator and see if that works.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRseXxy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe its just me but it sounds like its only ur alternator..... a bad altenator can cause ur car to die like that.. Before getting ur hands dirty, replace the alternator and see if that works.</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHA yea i bet the alternator is causing the car TO NOT EVEN CRANK . I have heard of people blowing the alternator sol. fuse (dont know the correct name) in the under dash fuse box. They say that fuse can prevent the car from cranking. Just a thought

 

what Ga. wiring was used when you replaced the old ones? (I've heard if you use to large of wiring it can overload the circuit) it sounds like the Alt. or a fuse to me. also if you really want to see the clip on the clutch switch get a little mirror (one like the dentist uses) and a flashlight that will enable you to see it easier.

 

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HAHA yea i bet the alternator is causing the car TO NOT EVEN CRANK . I have heard of people blowing the alternator sol. fuse (dont know the correct name) in the under dash fuse box. They say that fuse can prevent the car from cranking. Just a thought</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ummm a dead alternator leads to a dead battery so if ur battery is dead, ur car isnt gonna crank. THINK then talk.... but hey i just work on cars for a living so i dont know what im talking about or nething

 

To me it just sounds like you have a flat battery, have you made sure it's charged? I just get clicking when mine is flat (which happens alot because mine no longer holds charge correctly)

 

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Ummm a dead alternator leads to a dead battery so if ur battery is dead, ur car isnt gonna crank. THINK then talk.... but hey i just work on cars for a living so i dont know what im talking about or nething</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did THINK...which is why i told him to check batt. voltage, not alternator output. U cant check alternator output if the car doesnt run. So the main point here is to get the car to crank first.

edit: So if u work on cars for a living, you should know that u just dont start replacing parts until u find the problem. That can be very costly and time consuming. Work smart, not hard.

 

I seriously doubt that its the battery...its only been in there for a month or so. I checked it a couple days ago and it was putting out 12.6v. And i dont think that the alternator is bad either...but i guess well see cuz i have to replace it anyway. Im still thinking that its either the clutch pedal switch or the relay. Oh well...i guess ill be working on it all day tomorrow...its the story of my life

 

Anyone have any ideas on how to get that damn switch out without taking out the dash? I guess i could cut the wires...but there isnt enough room up in there to solder them back...and i dont like just twisting it and taping it. But i guess if i have to then ill do it.

 

Well i just spent another 45 minutes trying to get that damn switch off...but i just cant get that bitch. Im taking a little brake then im going to go back out there and cut them and splice them together. Ive got a spare b series starter so im trying to work out a trade for an alternator with one of my friends. If that goes through i should have it on the car tomorrow. Just thought id give an update.

 

You can take the alternator/or starter to a shop and have it tested for free alot of time. i would do that before buying anything.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sCeRaXn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i just spent another 45 minutes trying to get that damn switch off...but i just cant get that bitch. Im taking a little brake then im going to go back out there and cut them and splice them together. Ive got a spare b series starter so im trying to work out a trade for an alternator with one of my friends. If that goes through i should have it on the car tomorrow. Just thought id give an update.</TD></TR></TABLE>

n/m.

try to start the car w/o pressing the pedal. if I remember correctly theres NOTHING, no click, no crank, NO SOUND.

if u hear a CLICK then the pedal switch is fine ?

again, turn the key w/o pressing the pedal.. note sounds

 

When this happened did the rest of your car have power?? Did the lights and whatnot still work?? If not i had a very similar problem it turned out the be the main battery fuse (little yellow box fuse under the hood). It doesnt sound like the same thing but it is something you can check quite easily just to make sure its not that.

 

Ill try starting it w/o the pedal pushed in when i go back out there. Thats a pretty good idea

And yes i still have power to everything...and ive checked all the fuses and theyre fine.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sCeRaXn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And i dont think that the alternator is bad either...but i guess well see cuz i have to replace it anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>

he already has to replace the alternator. therefore, i advised him to replace the alternator first before messing around on the chance it could be that, "saving him time and money on other parts" but chances are if the lights and everything works it prob isnt just that. (but u never know)

 

listen im not trying to be a *****, but the kid asked what it could be, and i gave my 2 cents... i can see if i told him a broken engine mount or a fouling spark plug caused this for u to get on my case, but i dont see why u have to knock what i said considering that there is a chance it could be the alternator.

Not only as a mechanic but i had the same syptoms he did, the car would idle rough, and bog sometimes and then just died on me and it turned out even though the alt worked, it wasnt charging my battery, so i had to get a new one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRseXxy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">listen im not trying to be a *****, but the kid asked what it could be, and i gave my 2 cents... i can see if i told him a broken engine mount or a fouling spark plug caused this for u to get on my case, but i dont see why u have to knock what i said considering that there is a chance it could be the alternator.

Not only as a mechanic but i had the same syptoms he did, the car would idle rough, and bog sometimes and then just died on me and it turned out even though the alt worked, it wasnt charging my battery, so i had to get a new one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its all good bro. I just dont see how a bad alternator can cause the car to not even crank. I think we all know a bad alternator can lead to a dead battery, so we should concentrate FIRST how to get the **** to crank, then start trouble shooting other items.

Are u sure the ground from the tranny to frame is in GOOD condition? I would check that with an ohm meter. Dont just look at it and rule it out...it must be checked with a DVOM. I know this from experience

 

this fucken thread is fucken gay.

stop arguing.

 

hotwire your alternator and make sure it works before you go tearing things apart.

and yes, I mean test an alternator that you just bought

then test the battery.

EDIT: LOAD TEST the battery, don't just put a voltmeter on it.


Modified by drussell4801 at 1:57 AM 10/28/2004