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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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I am an enthusiast. When Im not riding, Im thinking about riding, when im not thinking about riding, im talking to someone about riding, and when im not talking about it, im probobly dreaming about it.

I am trying to put together a collage of material of just a few 600's on the markets, that have seem to work their way into everyone's garages. Im a small guy and when i think of motorcycles i think of knee dragging hair pin turns and accelerating out of them, not doing wheelies and endo's, so weight is a factor, and I just prefer the 600 standpoint...at least for now. Anyway, please feel free to add comments and personal experiences. all the info here is pretty much robbed strait from their respective websites.

Yamaha's 2005 Yamaha YZF600R


The perfectly balanced middleweight supersport machine. A model of civility attuned to the everyday needs of the real world. That's not to say the 600R doesn't feast on twisty tarmac as hungrily as its supersonic R1 and R6 siblings.

Type: 599cc, liquid-cooled, 16-valve, DOHC, inline four-cylinder
Bore x Stroke: 62 x 49.6mm
Compression Ratio: 12:1
Carburetion: 36mm Keihin CV Downdraft Carburetors (4)
Fuel Capacity: 5 gallons
Tires/Front: 120/60-ZR17
Tires/Rear: 160/60-ZR17
Dry Weight: 412 Lbs.
MSRP $7,099*


YAMAHA YZF-R6

We started out to give the 2005 R6 more horsepower and a new fork, and wound up engineering a nearly new motorcycle. Staying out front in the Supersport wars takes power:

* Bigger throttle bodies
* Improved fuel injection
* Revised intake funnels

... and more, result in a smoother, fatter powerband with three more horsepower at 13,000 rpm.

Type: 600cc, Liquid cooled, 4-stroke, forward inclined inline 4 cylinder, DOHC, 16 valves
Bore x Stroke: 65.5 x 44.5mm
Compression Ratio: 12.4 1
Carburetion: Fuel Injection
Fuel Capacity: 4.5 Gallons
Tires/Front: 120/70-ZR17
Tires/Rear: 180-55-ZR17
Dry Weight: 357 lbs.
MSRP: $8,399 (Blue; Red), $8,499 (Raven) All available from November 2004

HONDA CBR 600F4i

No sportbike better embodies the words "all-around" than the CBR600F4i. Apex-strafing, sport-riding power and handling mesh perfectly with ergonomics that result in a machine as equally at home on the track as off. And if that "all-around" handle leaves any doubt as to its race-bred bearing, please refer to the pair of Daytona 600 Supersport crowns on our mantle.

Engine Type: 599cc liquid-cooled inline four-cylinder
Bore and Stroke: 67.0mm x 42.5mm
Compression Ratio: 12.0:1
Valve Train: DOHC; four valves per cylinder
Carburetion: Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) with automatic enricher circuit
Fuel Capacity: 4.8 gallons, including 0.9-gallon reserve
Front Tire: 120/70ZR-17 radial
Rear Tire: 180/55ZR-17 radial
Dry Weight: 370 pounds
MSRP: $8,299

HONDA CBR600RR

t's been only a year since the CBR600RR burst onto the 600cc sportbike scene, capturing the 2004 AMA Formula Xtreme crown along the way. So what's in store for 2005? Try even greater horsepower, an all-new inverted front fork, lighter weight, CBR1000RR-style swingarm and front brakes, and scorching new bodywork. We can already hear the competition shaking.

Engine Type: 599cc liquid-cooled inline four-cylinder
Bore and Stroke: 67.0mm x 42.5mm
Compression Ratio: 12.0:1
Valve Train: DOHC; four valves per cylinder
Carburetion: Dual Stage Fuel Injection (DSFI)
Front Tire: 120/70ZR-17 radial
Rear Tire: 180/55ZR-17 radial
Dry Weight:361 pounds
Fuel Capacity: 4.8 gallons, including 0.9-gallon reserve
MSRP $8,799

SUZUKI GSX-R600

Named "Best Middleweight Sportbike" - Cycle World Magazine
Engine: 599cc,4-stroke,four-cylinder, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 16-valve
Bore Stroke: 67.0 x 42.5mm
Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
Dry Weight: 161kg (354.9 lbs.), 162kg (357 lbs.) Ca. model
Tires Front: 120/70-ZR-17
Tires Rear: 180/55-ZR-17
Fuel Tank Capacity: 17 liter (4.5 gal.)
MSRP: $8,199

KAWASAKI NINJA ZX-6R

Like the ZX-10R, the NINJA ZX-6R is oriented toward serious sport riding and track performance. It features ultra-aerodynamic bodywork with Ram Air, GP-style swingarm, under-seat exhaust system, six-spoke wheels, petal-style disc brakes, inverted forks and a powerful engine that will leave riders itching to find their local twisty highways.

Engine: Four-stroke inline four-cylinder, DOHC, 16 valves
Displacement: 636cc
Bore x stroke: 68 x 43.8mm
Compression ratio: 12.9:1
Carburetion: Fuel injection with (4) 38mm throttle bodies
Front tire: 120/65ZR17
Rear tire: 180/55ZR17
Fuel capacity: 4.5 gal.
Dry Weight: TBD
MSRP: $8,599

KAWASAKI NINJA ZX-6RR

The 2005 NINJA® ZX-6RR sport motorcycle is the racing-homologated sibling of the all-new NINJA ZX-6R. Produced in limited numbers, it is designed for serious on-track performance, strongly reaffirming Kawasaki’s commitment to developing the world’s leading-edge sportbikes.

The NINJA ZX-6RR features all-new, ultra-aerodynamic bodywork with Ram Air, GP-style swingarm, under-seat exhaust system, six-spoke wheels, petal-style disc brakes, inverted forks and a powerful new engine.

Engine: Four-stroke inline four-cylinder, DOHC, 16 valves
Displacement: 599cc
Bore x stroke: 67 x 42.5mm
Compression ratio: 13.5:1
Carburetion: Fuel injection with (4) 38mm throttle bodies
Front tire: 120/65ZR17
Rear tire: 180/55ZR17
Fuel capacity: 4.5 gal.
Dry Weight: TBD
MSRP: $8,799


<DEEP BREATH> WELL I THINK those are all that i wanted to put up. now which is one is for you? I haven't dug deeper into finding out how much hp and torque each bike makes, but im sure someone has done testing or at least word of mouth. Just by these numbers, I don't think i can make my choice yet. I see a few of these bikes almost every week, and at local schools its hard not to see two or three r6's parked next to each other. Well id like to see what everyone thinks and im done for typing. muahaha. enjoy.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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Most 600cc bikes have very similar specs.. the only difference is the look and comfort and even that is getting to be more similar each year. It's really just a toss up.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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The New kawasakis are soo Hotttt!!!

I just dont think the others compair when it comes to features.....Wave Rotors, underseat exhaust, Beefy Swingarm, Inverted forks, Two Injectors per cylinder, Im sure they will be Light Weight, etc....

Im happy to see that Yamaha and Honda are trying to compete and have added radial Brakes and Inverted forks!

Eric
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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the fronts on the new kawis are *** ugly.

gixxer's are hot

RR's are hot

r6's are hot. i like that they finally updated to radial brakes

i was never really a big fan of the yzf600r

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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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ooooOOOoooo. i can't wait for someone to dump their rr so i can ***** the forks/brakes/etc off it.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Slipper Clutch in the 636 is hotness!!!!!

I still have a distaste for Kawi's, but they have gain my respect with the newer 6's and the 10R.

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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL MOTA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Slipper Clutch in the 636 is hotness!!!!!

I still have a distaste for Kawi's, but they have gain my respect with the newer 6's and the 10R.

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they have cool ideas, but i don't really like the way they look. i wonder how long it will be till bikes start getting ugly. (like cars. i.e. i will take an ef civic hatchback over a new civic hatch any day of the week)
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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before when the new 6r came out..it looked weird.. looks like a flat nose..but when i bought it..it kinda has a unique look..different from other bikes.. now i love this thing .. oh yea..ef civics are hotness still
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ashish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ooooOOOoooo. i can't wait for someone to dump their rr so i can ***** the forks/brakes/etc off it. </TD></TR></TABLE>Same here. Cant wait till the new 2005 R6 comes out. I'll be on ebay for its usd forks/radial brakes.
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rainmanEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The New kawasakis are soo Hotttt!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed It's my next bike
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Agreed It's my next bike </TD></TR></TABLE>

what made you choose that one?
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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whats a slipper clutch?
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Old Oct 23, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90efdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats a slipper clutch?</TD></TR></TABLE>

A slipper clutch prevents the rear wheel from receiving too much power when the bike is downshifted. It metes out the power so the wheel doesn't hop.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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how do inverted forks and some of these newer updates like radial brakes compare to the old style? what is the old style?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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dont forget zzr600
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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diggin the new r6 more and more...still partial to the 636 though
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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Man, i should have waited a year for the new 636. Some amazing upgrades, hopefully the 10r recieves more goodies cause thats nexT!
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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YAMAHA YZF-R6



Nuts pants, gets kleanex.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedStarGsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do inverted forks and some of these newer updates like radial brakes compare to the old style? what is the old style?</TD></TR></TABLE>

inverted forks means fat end up. older style (if you haven't figured it out yet) is skinny side up. this gives a more rigged feel of the road with a reduced amout of flex in the fork.

radial brakes means the caliper is mounted at the top and the bottum. so the caliper doesn't flex or pivit during hard breaking. this gives you more break pad on the rotor and slows you down more efficiently.

the kawi and suzuki were the only bikes during 04 to have this set up on their
600's. now honda and yamaha have added it to their bikes to be more competetive with the other two.

if your looking for a new 600 i'd probably recomend the kawi 636 because it has moer horsepower than any other bike. the R6 has roughly 105 at the wheel. i'm pretty sure honda and suzuki have right around that as well. the 636 has 115 at the wheel for 04. the 05 model has a completely redesigned engine so i'm sure it's a bit more than 115.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Triumph has released specs on the Daytona 650.

http://www.triumph.co.uk/uk/787.aspx

Capacity 646cc
Bore/Stroke 68 x 44.5mm
Compression Ratio 12.85:1
Clutch Wet, multi-plate
Fuel System Twin-butterfly, multipoint sequential electronic fuel injection with forced air induction

Length 2112mm (83.1in)
Width (Handlebars) 712mm (28.0in)
Height 1131mm (44.5in)
Seat Height 815mm (32.1in)
Wheelbase 1390mm (54.7in)
Rake/Trail 24.6 degree/89.1mm
Weight (Dry) - 363lbs)
Performance (Measured at crankshaft to DIN 70020) Maximum Power 114PS (112bhp) at 12,500 rpm
Maximum Torque 68Nm (51ft.lbf) at 11,500 rpm

Price 6,499.00

To bad they don't offer it in Silver anymore. It would also look sweet in black.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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awww i see... does anyone know what the claimed numbers for these bikes are? sb97civic-- thanks for the info, much appreciation
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man i shoulda held out for 1 more year to snag the black/white gixx
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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I am planning on picking up a 600rr this winter

On a sidenote, I think the new gixxer6 is ******* *** ugly. Id take a frickin yzf600r over that thing. Just my opinion.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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triumph::





how sweet it is...
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedStarGsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">triumph::

how sweet it is...</TD></TR></TABLE>

...to be #5 in a group of four?
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