1) i noticed that koni yellows don't come in a type-r specific model.....does that matter? should i get the gsr ones?

2) blistein does make a type-r model.....which is why i'm considering them, but are they as adjustable as the koni's?

jason

 

I believe Koni does make a Type R shock. At least Comptech sells a Koni Type R shock. I know of a few autocross Type R's with Koni's.

 

I believe Koni does *finally* have a Type R specific rear shock. Call them to verify as I spoke with a gentlemen at Nats this year who had just purchased them. Otherwise you can use the 88 CRX Si Koni yellow (8040-1078Sport). It's not externally adjustable, however

And Bilsteins are not adjustable. The only person who I know that went to them, actually said his car handled better with the OEM struts. He's a veteran autocrosser too, so I value his opinion.

 

I find that interested since many members of this board (myself included) run bilsteins. I run 450lb front springs and 600lb rear springs and the Bils handle that fine. (They are "self-adjusting" btw..). Auto-Xer.. lol. That's funny.

I will be hard pressed to run anything but Bilsteins, in fact, I'll be running bilsteins on my ITA car.

 

I have the Bilsteins, I am very happy with. No they are not adj, but why do you need this option? That was just one more thing I had to keep up with, or mess with at the track. Install and go

Bryan

 

Exactly. And adjustable shocks are adjustable so you can fine tune them to your SPRINGS. The reason there is a damper in the first place is to control the springs movement, not to make the car stiffer or softer. By making a shock soft, the spring will move too quickly and bounce, to hard and the spring will be reacting too slowly.

 

I have the Koni on mine and they work great. Koni's catalog lists the 1078 for the rear which is what I have also. We sell the set here: http://www.diabloautosports.com/prod...roducts_id=305
Front is externally adjustable, rear has to be adjusted while off the vehicle. I asked Koni at the SEMA show if they were ever going to make a specific shock for type R and they said no, too limited. He said the CRX one was so close that it wasn't worth it. The GSR has the same front shocks, but the rears will not fit the Type R.

 

The 2001 KW coilover suspension has the yellow Koni shocks. Font and rear is adjustable in installed condition.

What brand of springs do you guys recommend for the yellow Konis?


[Modified by austrian ITR, 8:49 AM 12/19/2001]

 

Bilstein Sports

Autocrossers don't like Bilstein's because you have to warm the fluid inside a bit for them to become stiffer. A warm up lap is usually all that's required. I find they get stiffer by the 2nd or 3rd lap. As the typical autocross course is about 1 minute in length - they are not the best choice - mind you autocrossers do run crazy tire pressures too to account for their short courses.

For street/track use the Bilsteins are a good choice.


[Modified by Big Phat R, 10:59 AM 12/19/2001]

 

anyone know the price for the bilstein R specific shocks??? I do believe that will be my deciding factor, between koni and bilsteins... Thanks

 

not sure, but you should be able to get a pretty good idea from http://www.shox.com

yoshi - who almost got bilsteins but will work on engine protection first

 

I was quoted 419 from shox.com backa couple of months ago. Best price i could find anywhere.

 

Do you guys think Bilsteins or Koni's are too much shock for springs rated:

350-front, 300-rear

Just wondering...

 

Considering that I'm running 450f/600r on bilstein HDs.. no.

 

Big Phat R,

what suspension are you running?
whats you opinion about running the blisteins with h&r sports?

jason

 

I just don't want a shock that is too stiff for that spring.

I don't know **** about spring / shock combinations.

TIA

 

I got a quote back from shox.com and they said they are $349... The koni's were $549. Now I specified for a type R but somehow I think those prices are for non itr's... But maybe there is not a price difference between the bilsteins for either integra.

 

I used to run them with H&R Sports as well, they handled those just as well. At least.. I haven't noticed any difference.. (well, in the ability for the shock to adjust itself to be happy with the springs anyways).

 

Thanks Dave

 

quote from shox.com from 17dec01

> Your Car: 1998 ACURA type R (2WD)
>
> Preference:
>
> Product:
> Supplier:
>
> Comments: please give me a quote on shocks that
> you carry to fit 98 integra type R.
>
> Requesting additional info/quotes for:
>
> BILSTEIN - Shocks $439.00
> KONI - Shocks $504.00
> KYB - Shocks -N/A
> SACHS - Shocks -N/A
> Sets of 4

 

the front shocks on the GSR are different than the front shocks on the R. i dont beleive they will fit, BUT i have to say, i love my Koni's!!!!!

 

dude, you havent bought a shock until you get the ride height adjustment option. i love my koni's..........and it takes minutes to adjust the height (on the rear at leas)

 

uhmmmmmmmm.. can anyone say "ground control threaded sleeves"?

And the GS-R Bils' will fit a ITR, but they would be the HD model, not the Sport model.

 

i do not have ground controls, neuspeed race. sorry


[Modified by ic108, 2:08 AM 12/21/2001]

 

my point was really that someone buying new shocks doesn't need to worry about adjustable perches in they aren't getting a threaded body shock.. just get threaded sleeves