I have a 00 civic si with just I/H/E and was thinking of putting skunk2 stage 2 cams along with a skunk2 intake manifold. Can it be done with stock ECU and injectors? Is there any problems I might run into?

ANd also, all my friends that are using a skunk2 intake manifold are running it with the back vacuum port unplugged. THey said that if they plug the vacuum port up it makes the idle irratic and the car dies when they come to a stop like at a stop light... Anyone else have their vacuum port unplugged?

 

Dont know about the vac. but you could drop the cams in there and be ok. Just dont rev past redline and youll be fine.

 

dont forget to upgrades your springs and retainers!

 

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Yep this is correct. You'll find that your stock ecu will limit you significantly with those cams because they'll make power well past your 8200 rev limiter. I have the Skunk stage 1's in my car and I found that the stock VTEC engagement was to early on the cams causing a drop in power and it just started to pull really hard when the rev limiter would kick in. I had idle problems as well with my setup and I also was running the Skunk2 intake manifold. I decided to go with the Hondata in order to maximize the power gains for the money I spent. If I were you, I'd get the cams and then plan on going with a Hondata setup, that will fix your idle problems as well and give you good power gains. My VTEC now comes on at 6000 rpm and rev limiter is set at 8700 rpm, car works awesome...

 

yes they will work BUT youd should also bump the compression up a little to make better use with the cams

 

i have question that kind of pertains to this

i want a toda/skunk2 combo in my 2000 Si

i have couple of questions for the elders

i want to do stage 3 cams, but really what mods are needed? any machine work on the block?

also toda racing mentions on their website that if you are going to get the sports injection kit you need a stand alone fule management system, and they mention Hondata for that . . okay i think i am getting ahead here, let me tell you what i want, you tell me what i need to do . .

Skunk2:
catback exhaust
intake manafold (vacume problems?)
stage 3 cams
valve springs
titanium rings
valves
cam gears

Toda:
sports injection kit
piston kit
metal head gasket

others:

d/c sports header
greddy timing belt
fule pressure regulator
aem fule rail
aem cold air intake
under drive pulley

possible:

50 shot of No2

basically i want a 300hp n/a honda b16a

possible with these mods?

 

Are you trying to build a race car or a daily driven street/strip car?? If you plan on driving it on the street, forget the Skunk2 stage 3 cams as they are for track/racing only. Even with all that stuff you will not hit 300hp NA without the possible exception of a nitrous kit but then you wouldn't be NA anymore. What exactly is it you're trying to accomplish as in what is your intended use for the car? Second of all, 300hp is an ambitios goal to begin with but if you want NA you are going to need a ton of money! So before you ask people for their thoughts on the "wish list" you put in your original post, do you even have the kind of money you'd need for this? because if you don't you're just wasting everyones time including yours...

 

300whp is going to be pretty much impossible. But dont just think about your horsepower. Your motor will always be a torqueless monster without the help of FI or a bigger block.

 

whenever u get cams u have to put in stronger valve springs and retainer, it's a must. also with cams, u want some sort of tuning done

 

I don't have Skunk2 cams, but I have Type-R ones in there. I also have a Skunk2 intake manifold. I HAVE been having problems with the idle and couldn't figure it out. You say that your friends leave the vacuum port unplugged? I will have to check this out. This might be causing my idle problem.

Do you have any pictures of where exactly this vacuum plug is located? Is it the small one on the right side?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boredracer408 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 00 civic si with just I/H/E and was thinking of putting skunk2 stage 2 cams along with a skunk2 intake manifold. Can it be done with stock ECU and injectors? Is there any problems I might run into?

ANd also, all my friends that are using a skunk2 intake manifold are running it with the back vacuum port unplugged. THey said that if they plug the vacuum port up it makes the idle irratic and the car dies when they come to a stop like at a stop light... Anyone else have their vacuum port unplugged?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

ouch . .

lets just say i am willing to invest in my bone stock car. .

my intended use, a daily driver, and yes 300 hp is a stretch, maybe a B20 engine swap someday,

i just want to get the best use out of the b16 for now, how bout that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dj_BUDDAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have question that kind of pertains to this

i want a toda/skunk2 combo in my 2000 Si

i have couple of questions for the elders

i want to do stage 3 cams, but really what mods are needed? any machine work on the block?

also toda racing mentions on their website that if you are going to get the sports injection kit you need a stand alone fule management system, and they mention Hondata for that . . okay i think i am getting ahead here, let me tell you what i want, you tell me what i need to do . .

Skunk2:
catback exhaust
intake manafold (vacume problems?)
stage 3 cams
valve springs
titanium rings ??
valves
cam gears

Toda:
sports injection kit
piston kit
metal head gasket

others:

d/c sports header
greddy timing belt
fule pressure regulator
aem fule rail
aem cold air intake
under drive pulley

possible:

50 shot of No2

basically i want a 300hp n/a honda b16a

possible with these mods?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like you need to do quite a bit more research on what you want. The toda sports injection kit is a individual throttle body setup, so you eliminate your intake manifold/throttle body. You could not run a skunk2 manifold and cold air intake with ITB's. 300 hp n/a b16?? lol. You need to do a lot of reading my friend. I think a majority of people all had a Christmas list like this at some point

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dj_BUDDAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ouch . .

lets just say i am willing to invest in my bone stock car. .

my intended use, a daily driver, and yes 300 hp is a stretch, maybe a B20 engine swap someday,

i just want to get the best use out of the b16 for now, how bout that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My post may have been a little sharp but it's only because it's obvious that you really have no idea what you're asking or expecting, so I was trying to send you back to reality. The reality is that for a daily driver, especially 300hp out of a B16 is virtually impossible NA. You really do need to do a lot of reading and searching on this site in order to gain more realistic goals. 300hp from any of the Honda engine combinations (NA) is still a lofty goal without 10-15 grand to spend so if it's not in your reach you might as well forget it now. If you want to be realistic, you can build your B16 or get a B18 and go turbo and get the 300hp you want in a daily driver that's reliable and still driveable. It will still cost you several thousand dollars to do it right and reliable with the proper tuning etc.

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Looks like you need to do quite a bit more research on what you want. The toda sports injection kit is a individual throttle body setup, so you eliminate your intake manifold/throttle body. You could not run a skunk2 manifold and cold air intake with ITB's. 300 hp n/a b16?? lol. You need to do a lot of reading my friend. I think a majority of people all had a Christmas list like this at some point </TD></TR></TABLE>

My point exactly.....

 

I just got off the phone with Skunk2 and they said that disconnecting a hose would CAUSE an idle problem. They gave me a few solutions on how to fix it.

He pretty much led me to my throttlebody and said to check to idle positions on there.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boredracer408 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 00 civic si with just I/H/E and was thinking of putting skunk2 stage 2 cams along with a skunk2 intake manifold. Can it be done with stock ECU and injectors? Is there any problems I might run into?

ANd also, all my friends that are using a skunk2 intake manifold are running it with the back vacuum port unplugged. THey said that if they plug the vacuum port up it makes the idle irratic and the car dies when they come to a stop like at a stop light... Anyone else have their vacuum port unplugged?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

lets just say that my "christmas list" is within my reach

i just want to know if all those parts will work together, i did research and no one here has done serious Toda mods , or combo'd them up with Skunk2 parts, everyone uses itr mods?

okay a 300 hp all egine might be a stretch but i just wanted advise . . thanks anyway

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DangBruhY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got off the phone with Skunk2 and they said that disconnecting a hose would CAUSE an idle problem. They gave me a few solutions on how to fix it.

He pretty much led me to my throttlebody and said to check to idle positions on there.


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of course. a vacuum leak would cause idle problems. the guy who said he leaves his disconnected is full of the poop