I have a 93 ej stock. Im debating whether to go with a turbo bulit b18b or a h22a with some nice cams. Please gimme some input on what i should do, or even some other suggestions.

 

go w/ the turbo built b18b..lol.. ive got one f/s if youre looking. email me me and ill get you the specs!.. I love my h22's but im just partial to my b-series

 

coo any other suggestions??????what do u think

 

Turbo LS will walk a H22 with just cams, however if you are looking for an allmotor car then go H22

 

do you want to go all-motor or turbo?? I love the H-series, but i'd go with the turbo LS. Turbo is just fun to play with.

 

If you aren't going to do any other mods other than simple bolt ons (intake,exhaust), go with the H22.

If you are going to do exensive work (internals, rev it to super high revs, possible FI in the future, etc.) then go with the b18b.

Thanks.

 

Builds on both...which is the better turbo engine?

 

H22

 

K20!!!!!

 

it all depends on what u want to go with...all motor or turbo like jarelee said. b18b has insane freeway speed when properly turboed out, but all motor h22 has insane freeway speed...off tha line ull have sum lag cause of tha weight but once up 2 speed...ya! turbo h22...now thats a diff subject, but very nice all motor

 

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deff. the b18b , low compression , strong *** bottom end , closed deck block -(would recommend replacing rod bolts )tons of upgradable parts

h22 higher comp. better for all motor , high revs. open deck block , weak as hell bottom end (i speak from exp.)

h23 - the best turbo monster you could ever want ... (within reason) low comp. awesome displ. , close deck block , very boost friendly --- would recommend upgrading rods and mains , if not .. you with break them .... (i speak from exp.)
-- however very limited on upgradable bolt on's !!! , but there's enough out there to get you into the 400whp + margin

 

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deff. the b18b , low compression , strong *** bottom end , closed deck block -(would recommend replacing rod bolts )tons of upgradable parts

h22 higher comp. better for all motor , high revs. open deck block , weak as hell bottom end (i speak from exp.)

h23 - the best turbo monster you could ever want ... (within reason) low comp. awesome displ. , close deck block , very boost friendly --- would recommend upgrading rods and mains , if not .. you with break them .... (i speak from exp.)
-- however very limited on upgradable bolt on's !!! , but there's enough out there to get you into the 400whp + margin

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Good ****!

Always wanted to turbo an H23 just to see how it would far since no one ever really mess with these engines!

H23 + Turbo = Torque Monster(My thoughts exactly)

 

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Good ****!

Always wanted to turbo an H23 just to see how it would far since no one ever really mess with these engines!

H23 + Turbo = Torque Monster(My thoughts exactly) </TD></TR></TABLE>

well i'll tell you from exp. if it's done right , they are awesome ... you just have to build the block , (thay really aren't the strongest , but the only issue is the rods and and rod bolts= non vtec--ya know - the only prob. i had was getting traction ,

 

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If you are going to do exensive work (internals, rev it to super high revs, possible FI in the future, etc.) then go with the b18b.

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please do not listen to this guy ... if you really want a car that will haul *** and you won't have to shell out a bunch of cash , buy a b18b and slap a turbo on it , before i went a/m i had a $500 turbo kit on my b18b with 3' down pipe and dsm custom fabbed front /side mount intercooler and i made 265whp @ 6300 rpm's and it was daily driven , (with all stock internals ) , you are looking at least 3-5 grand for a reliable all motor h22 that will make that kind of power and thats not including the cost of the motor or the time and pain in the *** installing it ...

 

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please do not listen to this guy ... if you really want a car that will haul *** and you won't have to shell out a bunch of cash , buy a b18b and slap a turbo on it , before i went a/m i had a $500 turbo kit on my b18b with 3' down pipe and dsm custom fabbed front /side mount intercooler and i made 265whp @ 6300 rpm's and it was daily driven , (with all stock internals ) , you are looking at least 3-5 grand for a reliable all motor h22 that will make that kind of power and thats not including the cost of the motor or the time and pain in the *** installing it ... </TD></TR></TABLE>




I'll agree to that!

 

love the torque from h22 but never drivin a turbo ls. if i had the money i would say f&^% it and go w/a h22 turbo and call it a day

 

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better start saving !

 

depends on your budget. a b18b turbo will own an h22a w/ cams. be more realistic on what you really want. like everyone else said on this post, the b18b's are great for boosting because of stock low comp pistons. a stock bottom h22a isnt a great choice for boosting because of the weak piston rings that can go out at 8psi with good tuning! unless you have money, get the h22a resleeved w/ pistons and rods, you'll have one crazy boosted motor. anyways, if your lazy then get the b18b turbo

i'd personally go all out with the NA h22a!

 

h22 turbo if done right will ultimatly make more power , but b18b turbo is way more cost effective !

 

K20 will do the job

 

i smoke my friends lsturbo eg. haha. 12.53@106 vs 12.8@10* boosting 8 or 9 psi on the ls. all i have is cams and a header... some other little bs too. street car.

 

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showoff...

 

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deff. the b18b , low compression , strong *** bottom end , closed deck block -(would recommend replacing rod bolts )tons of upgradable parts

h22 higher comp. better for all motor , high revs. open deck block , weak as hell bottom end (i speak from exp.)

h23 - the best turbo monster you could ever want ... (within reason) low comp. awesome displ. , close deck block , very boost friendly --- would recommend upgrading rods and mains , if not .. you with break them .... (i speak from exp.)
-- however very limited on upgradable bolt on's !!! , but there's enough out there to get you into the 400whp + margin

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not all h22's are open deck....and what part of the bottom end was weak for you?

 

rod bolts esp. and balancer shaft bearings , and your right not all are open deck , but to resp. to all other posts , you can make an h22 nasty esp. if it is in a hatch , but there's alot more you have to go through to get the car where it truly needs to be , unlike the b18b which makes awesome power when turbo'd and is a way easier swap for a number of reasons , minimal fabrication if any ... depending on car , and no handling or large traction issue's , i have had both in my hatch , and also have an h23 prelude , and will tell you fist hand that the ls made great power and i was able to put more of it to the ground , unlike roasting 1,2,3, gears before making traction like with the h22... both can be fun , imo- b18b is the better way to go !!!!!

 

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deff. the b18b , low compression , strong *** bottom end , closed deck block -(would recommend replacing rod bolts )tons of upgradable parts

h22 higher comp. better for all motor , high revs. open deck block , weak as hell bottom end (i speak from exp.)

h23 - the best turbo monster you could ever want ... (within reason) low comp. awesome displ. , close deck block , very boost friendly --- would recommend upgrading rods and mains , if not .. you with break them .... (i speak from exp.)
-- however very limited on upgradable bolt on's !!! , but there's enough out there to get you into the 400whp + margin

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The B18B has a closed deck block? This is news to me. The motor I have in my closet must not be a B18B!