I have A Completely STOCK GSR Motor in my car.. i just picked up a Full NX Nitrous system... can someone tell me how much shot a GSR can take without blowing anything.? Thanks

 

50

 

what does it matter? you already bought the system, so if we tell you it can only take a 25 shot, and you bought a 100, are you going to return your system?

i really don't know how much a stock motor it can take (because it's lame), but common sense tells me you shoulda figured this out BEFORE you bought it.

 

50 shot... if u had fuel pump and pressure regulator you could see up to 75-80 shot.. but i hope u get a new clutch because the stock will slip for sure.

 

i wouldn't recommend going past 50 with stock internals. it can be done, but your lookin to blow your motor pretty quick. even a 50 is gonna do some damage. just don't get crazy with it. my buddy did a 65 in his si, tuned. he blew his motor in one night.(7 runs-5N2O)
i dunno, after seeing something like that, i wouldn't even think about NX

 

75 shot, it all depends on the tuning you can run a 100 shot safely on a stock motor as long as your air/fuel is good

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tnord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does it matter? you already bought the system, so if we tell you it can only take a 25 shot, and you bought a 100, are you going to return your system?

i really don't know how much a stock motor it can take (because it's lame), but common sense tells me you shoulda figured this out BEFORE you bought it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


umm.. It Is fully adjustable.. you can adjust it to what amount of shot you want buddy..

thanks for all your comments.. i think im going to do some fuel related upgrades before i install. .. thanks

 

shows how much i know about that trash.

 

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u don't need to post ur an idiot. Nitrous comes with what they call pills it a fittiment that goes on the bottle and differentiates how much of the concentrated shot is released.


If u don't have any knowledgeable info to state then SHUT UR SUCK

 

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u don't need to post ur an idiot. Nitrous comes with what they call pills it a fittiment that goes on the bottle and differentiates how much of the concentrated shot is released.


If u don't have any knowledgeable info to state then SHUT UR SUCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i've always read that you should have your shot be half or less value than your cars actual horse power.

example:
your engine is may be 100hp
so run 50hp shot or less

 

I'm pretty sure there was a thread where someone ran a 120 shot and an 80 shot on his stock GSR. Threw a rod through the side of the block on one of the runs. With the right tuning, anything is possible. . .

 

i got a stock f**ked up gsr and spraying a 100 shot on 93 pump gas and if i spray alot my car get a low tone and then it backfires.

 

Nitrous is a one way ticket to blowin your motor, wouldnt hook it up unless you have modified internals to more safely accept the nitrous.

 

These threads **** me up.

If someone added 50-100hp with a turbo you'd all be praising him.

Nitrous is no different. It adds air, it adds fuel. If you add too much air (nitrous) it blows up, just like a turbo.

Make sure you pull timing out of it if you get over 50hp.
Run the best fuel you can find while on the bottle.
Sneak up on it. Start out small and short bursts. Listen for pinging. Pull over, read your plugs. If they are tan with no flecks, you're good. If they're not stop and figure out what's wrong.

People blow up motors on nitrous because they either don't know what they're doing (just like some turbo guys) or they get too greedy and add more hp than their engine can take (just like turbo guys).

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If you don't know anything about it how are you qualified to call it trash?

 

another BOTTLE with no throttle

 

50 shot on stock everything. 65 shot if you have a fuel pump and a reglulator. Anything above that i would get some tunning and maybe start thinking about getting the motor built.

 

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another person w/ NO BRAIN. . Your post isn't needed.


As for the nitrous, I wouldn't go over a 50 shot w/ out tuning. With tuning you can raise the amount but ONLY w/ tuning, gets unsafe w/ 80-100shot untuned.

 

damn, i though VWvortex was bad for people jumping on people telling them they're stupid for asking questions... NOS is simply a cheaper alternative to boost, but in turn the price you pay for not paying for boost is it's harder on your engine...

i would not run more than a 50 shot on a stock enigne... i would personally run like a 40 but that's me... or even lower and work from there and as stated keep an eye on the plugs after this... cause usually you get "pills" or jets in a multiple pack unless you know exactly which one you want...

and along with your purchase of the NOS i strongly recommend adjustable cam gears to retard timing a bit...

 

to me, if a car wins - it wins. No matter how it was done - by the argument most people put to nitrous, it could easily translate over to turbos. To bicker over which is better is just a petty argument over personal preferences.

Nitrous still involves a tremendous amount of tuning to be done CORRECTLY, and therefore, all this nonsense about it being "cheating" - pass on that. While nitrous can run out and leave a "slow car", boost can also leak, turbos can blow, and so forth - and leave a "slow car".

Anyhow, truthfully, you can run just about as large of a shot as you want - so long as you have adequate fuel and timing in place. Typically, however, your internals are only going to hold up to around 50% of the original crank horsepower in nitrous. Therefore a 75hp shot will be fine - so long as you make sure that you are running 93 octane, follow all recommended timing adjustments, spark plug heat ranges, and most important that there is an adequate fuel system available.

- Nathan

 

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First of all its not NAWZ its Nitrous or N2O. And turbo is FAR harder on your engine than nitrous. It is on 24/7 constantly putting wear on the engine, unlike n2o which you might use 1/100th of the time you drive. Also, turbos and SCs cram hot air into your engine. Nitrous cools the intake tract at least 40 degrees. Not to mention how the Nitrogen releases and helps 'protect' the cylinder walls.

Another huge aspect nobody realizes is the power lost spooling a turbo. (or parasitic drag from SC) Nitrous has nothing to spool, and this allows for a greater level of overall efficiency. You can add more power to a stock honda engine with nitrous than anything else.

 

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First of all its not NAWZ its Nitrous or N2O. </TD></TR></TABLE>

oh really? it's not NOS? it's not a NITROUS OXIDE SYSTEM? and there's not an entire division of Holley named NOS?

back on topic...

"cram a bunchof hot air into your engine" that's funny you make it seem as if more air into your engine makes it run worse... oh wait, no with proper fueling it makes your car run a whole lot faster...

"Nitrous cools the intake tract at least 40 degrees." ok i'll give you that it's a plus but you also make it seem that you can not cool the air in a turbo... oh, again... you can... intercoolers just to start CO2 spayers and water sprayers for the IC. and when you combine them you get ice... i'm sure you're familiar with how cold ice is 32def. F or less... some try to argue it blocks the air flow of the IC but then entire purpose of the IC to to cool the air, and what better than ice to do that. in the summer ice is alot colder than air...

"Not to mention how the Nitrogen releases and helps 'protect' the cylinder walls."
interesting pice of material, now can you proove it... cause i can also say if you drink your own urine you'll get all the vitamins you need for a weeks period of time and you would not have to eat in that week. but most of us already know that if you do something as crazy as to drink your own uring you can very sick from that...

and i am not against, NOS, but some how the fallacy was presented and then argued how it is better than turbos. where i would not go as far as to say one is better than the other cause i really like superchargers anyways... although the most of my cars have been turbo'd...

as like all of my arguements are not geared to attack anyone personally just the arguement presented cause some how people always take my statements and take a part of them and make it seem like i am an avid supporter of one thing over another... so i them have to back up the position being put down, even if it's not my personal favorite (this case turbos cause i'll argue for superchargers any day of the week over turbos)

 

35-75 with fuel pump 1 step colder plugs n slight timming retard

 

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oh really? it's not NOS? it's not a NITROUS OXIDE SYSTEM? and there's not an entire division of Holley named NOS?
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N.O.S. is a brand name as you are well aware. They make more than just nitrous systems. How many people say they have AEM or edelbrock on thier car? He is just stating that too many people refer to it as NAWZ when in fact its called nitrous or n2o. Before fast and furious I don't know if I ever heard reference to NAWZ before.
Anyways to topic. We have been running 120 shot on stock motors for years with no problems. A set of fuel injectors, a pump and a regulator is all we use. Of course we have been working with that stuff for a long time. I believe that NOS says that its not safe to run more than 80hp out of a stock motor without at least fuel system upgrades. But even 80 on a stock motor without a good tune could be very bad. If you plan on staying reliable and not having any problems go with a 50 shot and get a good tune using colder plugs. Also be sure to close the gap a little bit. After a nitrous run you should be able to pull your plugs and it looks like you have been running to all motor. A little tan. Even a little rich would be safe. Not too black and definitely not white or detonated. So if you plan on squeezing more than 50 out of a stock motor you should defintely have someone that knows what they are doing help you out. Good luck.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tnord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does it matter? you already bought the system, so if we tell you it can only take a 25 shot, and you bought a 100, are you going to return your system?

i really don't know how much a stock motor it can take (because it's lame), but common sense tells me you shoulda figured this out BEFORE you bought it.</TD></TR></TABLE>