I was thinking about getting the Mugen ECU. But on the kings site it recommends the use of reinforced valve springs. Is it really necesary? Are any of my fellow R's out there using this ECU without changing the valve springs?

 

Yes, some people do this...it really is up to you. Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Buying reinforced valve springs with your rev-limit-increased-ECU is like buying a JDM header bracket for your expensive-***-JDM-sized-header.

 

Well, not really ! The stock ITR valvetrain can handle stock cams up to 9000rpm and you don't need to change it.

 

HOW MUCH are you going to pay for that ECU? Over $800.00, right? Why not just buy a good stand-alone ECU? I'm selling a HalTech E6K for $800.00.

You could spend LESS and have the ability to TOTALLY tune EVERY aspect of your engine. Just hook up a laptop and you're good to go. There's NO way in hell a coockie-cutter Mugen ECU can do what the HalTech can do - PERIOD.

EVERY engine is different, and I don't care if it's Mugen or not, a stand-alone will be better because even Mugen doesn't have a crystal ball that tells them EXACTLY what YOUR motor needs.

IM me and i'll give you all the details of this HalTech. It's still new - comes with the box, freelooom, laptop hook-ups, program disc, and instruction NOVEL.

BTW: the HalTech normally costs $1145.00, so $800.00 is a KILLER deal.


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 3:16 PM 12/18/2001]

 

haha im selling my haltech E6K (totally new..in original boxes with recepeits) for $750 US if ud like it

IM Me

 

bastard! j/k. IM me as to WHY you're selling. I just need the money to get my car painted - I'd love to keep it, but this Maaco Red paint on my new car is KILLING me.

BTW: have fun paying for the shipping from CANADA from spooncivic. (2 can play this game...)


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 5:07 PM 12/18/2001]

 

unless u are hell bent on having the "actual" mugen ecu, i can chip your ecu to the exact same mugen program for JDM ITR's. yes obd2 rechipping can be done

 

yes, but my Haltech is new; and wasnt messed up by the past owner of ur 92 civic lol

 

okay, we're kidding and such, so at LEAST don't say stuff that would taint my HalTech deal. The previous owner did NOT **** it up at ALL. Still new as well.

 

Question, why are you selling if its so good?

Demian

 

B18C5-EH2 said he needs a new paint job.

 

What ever you do get valve spring AND retainers, I had only the Mugen valve springs and one of my retainers snapped in half and I threw a valve, punched a hole in my piston and sent metal shavings throughout my engine, the head was destroyed beyond repair and the cylander sleeves were scratched! Never believe anyone that you can safely rev to 9,000rpm with stock parts, I know first hand!!!!

 

Yes, as I stated above I really NEED the paint.

If you're hinting that the HalTech isn't good, and that's why I'm selling it, then buy the ****-Mugen ECU yourself and see why it's a ******* rip-off.

I'm an easy-going guy, but you were being an *******. Do some damnresearch before you post **** like that - you want a link to some HalTech info? Or can you at LEAST do a search and find it yourself?

Anyone who knows about ECU tuning KNOWS the tunability and greatness of the HalTech, Hondata, PMS, etc. and NOT the SPOON, Mugen, chipped ecus.

The sooner my car gets painted, the sooner I can drive it again. I WILL buy a stand-alone once again down the road once I get going again. Smartass.

 

I have a Mugen CTR ECU and plan on upgrading to a PowerFC - I wanted your opinion of the differences concerning the ECU's (and not just that "one is adjustable and one is not"), not a disertation on why I'm an *******.

Ive never heard of HalTech, and uh, just because a Factory/Spoon/Mugen ECU isnt adjustable doesnt make it a POS

Oh, and I DID a search on you and Haltech...
All I could find was you posting up trying to get rid of it.




You said "If you're hinting that the HalTech isn't good" and then proceeded to curse me, what gives? Im ASKING YOU FOR INFO, IF YOU DONT HAVE ANY, SAY SO dont hide the fact that you dont know anything by flaming me for asking.

Demian


[Modified by killingtime, 12:27 AM 12/19/2001]

 

In my OWN words before you read HalTech's info from their site - the E6K is a TOTALLY programmable stand-alone ECU. You simply hook up a laptop and you can tune the engine more EASILY because you just manipulta ebar graphs and
NOT hard numbers like some systems. Visual tuning is easier than just hard numbers. With some practice even the average guy could probably tune it and see the results on a dyno more easily. The E6K also does data-logging - important tif you're trying to monitor various happenings with the motor. Now THEIR explantion:

"The HALTECH E6K is a powerful "real-time" programmable fuel injection and ignition system computer designed to control most ignition type engines. Whether 1-6, 8, 10 or 12 cylinders, 1-2 rotors, naturally aspirated, turbocharged or supercharged, the HALTECH E6K can control it.

The E6K System optimises engine performance through the following capabilities:

ignition timing control
fuel control
idle speed control
closed loop





The E6K is much more than a programmable fuel injection computer - it provides logging of engine data and allows access in real time to maximise performance and trouble-shoot problems in a vehicle while running.

Typical Applications:

Control of fuel injection on modified engines
Conversion from carburetion to fuel injection
Race and rally applications of all description
Design and development purposes
Educational use by universities and technical colleges
Original equipment in cars and motorcycles.
The patented HALTECH system of programming virtually eliminates the input of numbers. You simply manipulate bar graphs by pressing arrows keys on the attached PC running Haltech Programming software. Manipulating the bars allows you to increase or decrease the amount of fuel delivered or ignition advance at that particular RPM and load point. The process is repeated for all load points in each rpm range.
Ignition timing is precisely mapped through the RPM range so that the exact timing required to obtain optimum performance is applied in every RPM and load range."


THERE. Now tell me if the likes of SPOON, Mugen, and other "chipped" stock ECus can do all of THAT?

You have to understand WHY I said those things to you. Forst of all HalTech is a well-known name in this industry, and I just ASSUMED you had at least heard of it - sorry, I guess I was WRONG.

If you really wanted to know about the features of the HalTech, then you could have just asked "whay makes the HalTech good?" and not "if it's so good why are you trying to sell it..."

And I meant you could have searched the internet or typed in haltech.com and found everything you wanted to know.

Don't play innocent like you weren't making a back-handed statement - you could have said it in a different way and I would have simply provided you with the info.

The damn HalTech is now SOLD anyways. The sale was pending even before this thread was started. I'm not some greedy rip-off artist that lurks this MB just to sell faulty products to those nieve enough to buy them.


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 12:49 PM 12/19/2001]

 

I'am interested and looking into a standalone computer..how does it perform with FI?

 

It will be THE best thing for forced induction. The HalTech has dual boost control, turbo timer, ANTI-LAG, and full engine tuning features to maximize your power SAFELY.

What's anti-lag? The abilty to SIT and boost up! While you're at a stoplight the turbo can be spooling up to ELIMINATE lag! How cool is that?

Add up the timer and boost controller and you've almost paid for the HalTech. Only the HalTech has much more than just boost features...

 

chrisJ

there are a lot of mugen clone programs out there. is your exactly like the mugen n1 program; if so what are the following settings:

1. vtec x-over pt
2. redline
3. open or closed loop

also what ecu will you support (p28?) and how much do you charge for just the chip (obd1 or obd2 or the entire ecu?




[Modified by trackie, 11:04 PM 12/19/2001]

 

go ahead and email me, i will get into the details there.

-chris