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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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if anyone can help please do as I got 1 week to go for race event would crank and run while in obd0 form now that I crossover it just cranks won't start. Used starting fluid and attempted to fire up but didn't

Please if anyone any ideas or direction to start
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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What jumper harness?

Are you getting spark and fuel?

Any CEL and codes?

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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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k i have a lot of problems with my car too lets go through basics.

Did you try switching the white wires on the dizzy one fat one thin?
Your not getting spark is your dizzy good?
Did you add cams? Is your timing right?

I know you said it started up for obd0 but not obd1. Im just trying to go through basics. Did you make harness or did you buy it from someone. If you bought from someone talk to to them they can help troubleshoot it too.

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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What jumper harness?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you getting spark and fuel?
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yes fuel for sure leaked some, spark I think so

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Any CEL and codes?
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yes at first 18 for TDC but fixed that, now getting 41 which is O2 sensor but what would that have to do with firing up
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deftones0817 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k i have a lot of problems with my car too lets go through basics.

Did you try switching the white wires on the dizzy one fat one thin?
Your not getting spark is your dizzy good?
Did you add cams? Is your timing right?

I know you said it started up for obd0 but not obd1. Im just trying to go through basics. Did you make harness or did you buy it from someone. If you bought from someone talk to to them they can help troubleshoot it too.

DEF</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I did switch them but still no go

the dizzy should be good as I got it from a friend swap that was running

Yes added Cams and the builder did do the valve lash and adjustment

And I will hit them up about the harness but was pretty str8 forward

anything else???

still no igntion this thing is a fresh build up
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Nobody else can help
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Is the spark orange or blue?

Are all wires on the dizzy matched color for color? Yel/grn on obd 1 dizzy goes to fat white on engine harness.

I'd get an ohmmeter and make sure there aren't any open circuits.

What ecu are you using?
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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i tried the color to color thing and well got a code for TDC

so changed it and now only get code for O2 sensor


and ecu P28 Hondata programmed
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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If all your wiring is correct, try another ecu. I threw codes 8 (tdc) and 20 (eld) on start-up. Tried another ecu and was code free.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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will do tonite I hope if I can get a hold of one
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Are you sure that your Hondata has a base map? other than that make sure your dizzy spark plug wires are firing in the correct cylinders. If all this is correct, make sure your jumper harness does not have any loose wires. Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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yes thank you will check on the spark right now

but the harness is good

and yes ecu has base map for now
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Sell me the whole car for $5.
It might hurt at first when you see it load up on the flatbed and go away, but you will thank me later when you realize how much headache I saved you.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Trying to be funny huh thanks for the support

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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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i had the same problem last week my cam gears i bought were marked wrong so it wasnt at tdc on the cam gears when i installed the cams. I put the oem cam gears on and did top dead center and bam the car started up...i would use oem cam gears till you get hte car running right.

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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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yeah I know what u mean but the guy who install this knows and does his **** for a living and still haven't heard a complaint about something like this

damm can't figure it
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Use the factory manuals troubleshooting flow chart to check the throttle position sensor and also MAP sensor wiring.

I had two of the wires to my MAP sensor backwards and the car just wouldn't start.
It would try, but not quite get it.

It was the guys at Lightning that told me where to look.

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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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really tried ot reach them and no word back from Tom

well that I didn't touch as it worked before the converison

Almost fired up but didn't go and now giving me code 20 (ELD) and 41 (o2 sensor)

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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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I am offically giving up on this and calling anyone out there to help me out if u can

just like to get this car running by the weekend

everything checks out expect the o2 sensor

ELD is flashing cause there ain't a wire to the ecu in obd0 harness only on obd1 ecu harness

still won't crank over spark and fuel there timing is even on TDC

I still think it is wiring though
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