Ok well I just got a JRSC,
do you guys have any advice on anything I should purchase before putting it on?
Is it a good idea to do the hondata IM gasket?
i'm going to get a new belt for it, might need some hoses n stufff.

But is there anything else you guys would recommend?

Will I have to worry about CELs due to the ecu seeing boost now?
like maybe do some sort of checkvalve setup to fix that?

And what can I use to clean this, just normal engine degreaser??
is it safe to clean the rotors? they're kinda slimy.

Thanks!

 

up'n atom!

 

i reccomend getting hondata, it was the best thing ever for me.

I had the jr setup with the map controller, and its night and day with hondata!

 

oh you mean tune it with hondata,
not the intake mani gasket?

 

you can get the gasket, while you are at it.

i would get hondata to tune it.

 

ya tad , tuning is everything man , uberdata is your key dood!!!

 

You need the MAP controller if you don't want tip-in or CELs. You can find one used for about $70.

Also, the BTC is nice for maximizing power instead of just retarding the ignition. (actually I will sell you my old one for $150 is you want it )

 

yeah, tuning is the shiznat, i know it.
i'm only running the 6psi pulley for now though.

I'm just really looking to know any tidbits I should get before putting it on.
I probably will end up running either chrome or uberdata, later on though, when i go up to 8psi.

whats tip-in ?

 

JRSC 2275 1200
Spark Plugs 5 5
Fuel Pump 130 95
Cartech FMU 260 120
JR BTC 360 150
Boost Gauge 75 35
Fuel Pressure Gauge 75 30
Gauge Pod 70 50
Fuel filter 100 80
Hondata Intake gasket 60 50
JR Map Controller 150 100

That is my set-up. I put up the new and used prices. If you do not know what a certain parts does do a search or ask in this post
HTH

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackSage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRSC 2275 1200
Spark Plugs 5 5
Fuel Pump 130 95
Cartech FMU 260 120
JR BTC 360 150
Boost Gauge 75 35
Fuel Pressure Gauge 75 30
Gauge Pod 70 50
Fuel filter 100 80
Hondata Intake gasket 60 50
JR Map Controller 150 100

That is my set-up. I put up the new and used prices. If you do not know what a certain parts does do a search or ask in this post
HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool,
informative list, thanks.
the thing i'm wondering about the hondata gasket, is that it just blocks heat transfer from the head to IM and visa versa.. so in an n/a setup this is great, cuz the head is hotter. But with all the boost running thru the IM, is the head still hotter than the IM ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the thing i'm wondering about the hondata gasket, is that it just blocks heat transfer from the head to IM and visa versa.. so in an n/a setup this is great, cuz the head is hotter. But with all the boost running thru the IM, is the head still hotter than the IM ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it's just a piece of insulation - inhibits heat transfer from head to IM. And the head is still DEFINITELY hotter even with a JRSC. Also, remember that the IM is still heated by coolant so the gasket doesn't do that much. It's not like it actually gives you any more power or anything, but it is a nice re-usable gasket to have.

And I meant tip-in detonation. Basically, when you stomp on the gas, the MAP sensor can't relay boost info to the fuel system fast enough and for a split second you run super lean which causes detonation.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JRciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, it's just a piece of insulation - inhibits heat transfer from head to IM. And the head is still DEFINITELY hotter even with a JRSC. Also, remember that the IM is still heated by coolant so the gasket doesn't do that much. It's not like it actually gives you any more power or anything, but it is a nice re-usable gasket to have.

And I meant tip-in detonation. Basically, when you stomp on the gas, the MAP sensor can't relay boost info to the fuel system fast enough and for a split second you run super lean which causes detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

eew, that tip in sounds bad.

guess I should get hunting for a jr map controller then..
what about a missing link? same thing?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JRciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And I meant tip-in detonation. Basically, when you stomp on the gas, the MAP sensor can't relay boost info to the fuel system fast enough and for a split second you run super lean which causes detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm, actually,
i'm thinking, the map sensor doesnt see boost AT ALL,
it sits on the tb, before the SC. so it doesnt do anything to relay boost to the fuel system ever

 

Engine management (and a little nitrous )

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh you mean tune it with hondata,
not the intake mani gasket?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, tune it with the Hondata gasket. Thats the shizzle.

 

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Hmm, actually,
i'm thinking, the map sensor doesnt see boost AT ALL,
it sits on the tb, before the SC. so it doesnt do anything to relay boost to the fuel system ever</TD></TR></TABLE>


My bad, I meant the boost pressure sensor. That's the part that doesn't allow the FMU to act fast enough. When you install the MAP controller, you ditch the boost pressure sensor completely. Then you hook up the MAP sensor to the IM so it can read boost.

 

Nobody really mentioned the obvious yet. But a 2.5" catback and 2.5" kamakazi header would help alot if your exhaust setup is stock. New clutch would be a good idea also.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99teggsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nobody really mentioned the obvious yet. But a 2.5" catback and 2.5" kamakazi header would help alot if your exhaust setup is stock. New clutch would be a good idea also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i've got a 2.25" setup i'm happy with,
its kind of a stepped setup
stock header, 2.25" hiflo cat, 2.25" ITR bpipe(with restriction removed) and a 2.5" axleback to 2.5" muffler. I like it.

i'll probly try and get my intake to take in some colder air though.

 

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No, tune it with the Hondata gasket. Thats the shizzle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, ok all chuckles aside,

what I meant was to ask if you were giving the hondata gasket a recommendation
or giving the hondata ecu tuning setup a recommendation?

 

To run the hondata I think you have to relocate the map sensor to the pressure side of the intake manifold or super charger..... So your hondata or uberdata can read boost. I had one of the profab im gaskets and I can't seem to tell if it made a difference or not. My underhood temperatures were up there so just hte ambient temperature of everything under the hood was pretty warm... This was with a turbo kit though not with a sc.. I also had problems with the nuts on the intake manifold coming loose as well ocasionally. I had to tighten them almost every week. I had some of them double nutted and that seemed to help but then some of the studs started to back out.....

 

Eh, I won't waste my money on a Hondata setup. I bought the full setup about a month ago and ended up re-selling it just to spend the money on more important stuff.

It's not worth the money really. $700 for a piggy-back unit the size of a deck of cards? That's weak. When I get the money again I'm going full standalone.

 

Forgot to add that you definitely are going to need a clutch other than stock. I like the act hdss but I've heard good things about the exedy organic street disk as well. If you are local to the bay area and want to keep your stock pedal feel call redzone performance in San Jose and get one of their remand' clutches. I think they are six pucks but the ones I've checked out are great feeling and easy to drive but give you enough grabbing power with the stock pressure plate...

 

hah,
yeah i'm a total bay area head,

I had redzone do my leakdown test the day before I bought the SC actually, hehe.

i'll probly run my stock clutch for now though,
if it wears out, then i'll replace it.

oh and hondata is ridiculous,
especially considering you can get uberdata for free, and its the same ****.
my ecu is already socketed also(done by redzone, )

 

I like the hondata for the ignition boost cut and the full throttle launch... You'll be lucky if your clutch holds up for more than a couple days. I think I had 20,000 mi on my car when I turbo'd it original clutch didn't last fifteen minutes. It was slippin from the get go.. I hate seeing posts about " I just blew my motor cuz a wastegate vacuum line just fell off and I spiked to 20psi." YOu won't have problems like that with the supercharger but thats one of the things the ignition boost cut off is for.....Check out redzones in house clutches they are great.......

 

Your clutch will be fine. Trust me.

Mine is finally starting to slip a little bit, but I really beat on it. I do burnouts entirely too much...