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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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I know theres a lot of different cam gears out there! I'm looking for one to put together with some M22s from Rocket motorsports. I need a good cam gear thats easy to adjust. Any help on my cam decision is great!
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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The only one's I ever recommend are ST Corsa. You'll undoubtedly hear countless other suggestions, but ST Corsa is the only one to feature a unique (and in my opinion far superior) design.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Anyone else??????
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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somebody answer the man!!!!
I wanna know too...
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only one's I ever recommend are ST Corsa. You'll undoubtedly hear countless other suggestions, but ST Corsa is the only one to feature a unique (and in my opinion far superior) design. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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What about JG, Toda (1st and 2nd gen), skunk, and STR?
Anyone wanna chime in?
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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toda are pricey

lots of people say go with Skunk2

I'm considering the new Buddy Club ones
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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anyone have experience with jg cam gears? Im about to pick some up for a pretty good price.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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the tuner i go to says to go with skunk2. he said the others hes seen have a tendency to slip sometimes.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99b18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the tuner i go to says to go with skunk2. he said the others hes seen have a tendency to slip sometimes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is exactly the reason why I recommend ST Corsa. Because all the other brands use the same fundamental design as one another, they all have the potential to slip, but due to the ST Corsa's unique design they physically <u>can't</u> slip.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Never had a problem with my STR's.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is exactly the reason why I recommend ST Corsa. Because all the other brands use the same fundamental design as one another, they all have the potential to slip, but due to the ST Corsa's unique design they physically <u>can't</u> slip. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you got a website where i could take a look at these things?? im curious to see the design
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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The server appears to be down at the moment, but the company site is: STCorsa.com

Edit: Server's up.


Modified by Padawan at 1:17 PM 10/20/2004
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The server appears to be down at the moment, but the company site is: STCorsa.com </TD></TR></TABLE>

those definately look like the best ive seen on the market.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzSi22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Never had a problem with my STR's. </TD></TR></TABLE>

its funny, most people say the AEM ones are no good, but I have a friend pushing over 400whp and he uses AEM ones
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigC-ivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

its funny, most people say the AEM ones are no good, but I have a friend pushing over 400whp and he uses AEM ones</TD></TR></TABLE>

go figure right?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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The ST Corsa gears are very nice. No chance of slipping and very easy to adjust.

Here is a picture of the Shoulder-Lock design
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigC-ivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its funny, most people say the AEM ones are no good, but I have a friend pushing over 400whp and he uses AEM ones</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not a question of making power. Basically any adjustable cam gear on the market will allow you to achieve the same power results. Instead, one of the prime concerns is the gears slipping, which can transform a 400 whp motor into a very expensive lawn decoration in a matter of seconds.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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I just updated the cam gear section on my site last night.
I have most cam gears included, but some are missing that I need to get info from like buddy club and a few others

http://www.honda-central.com/r.../page/

here is some info I wrote up about cam gears in general.

Number of Bolts
More Bolts the Better
Marks painted or machined
Definetly get laser etched or machined timing marks. If they are painted onto the cam gear surface, it is just a matter of time before the marks wear off and then you can tell where you are cam gears are set to.
Rough Weight (each)
Lighter the better. Most modern cam gears designs wont break because of advancements in stress testing the cam gears via a computer model.
Materials Used
6061 Billet Machined is Really good stuff. As long as its that or higher you are getting a cam gear that is machined from a good alloy.
Anodized Finish
Anodized finish will look the nicest and will also keep the finish for the longest. You dont want a painted finish. The adonized finish should last the life the of the cam gear.
Engineered Tooth Profile?
If the teeth arent engineered properly, then the timing belt and wear prematuraly which can lead to either the belt slipping a notch on the cam gear or it breaking completely. Both of those will result in the engine blowing up. Even though this point is rarely brought up, it makes a difference in the long run.
Easy to read timing marks?
On the JG cam gears, it was really difficult to read what timing marks. Most newer cam gears will have timing marks that are easy to read and therefore easy to set your cam gears properly for your engine. If you advance/retard your cam gear to much you can bend a valve and blow up your engine.
Bolt or Lock design
Lock/Pin design is the best in my opinion. But a properly designed bolt design will work really good. As I said earlier, more bolts the better. I would recomend getting a cam gear that uses 4 or more bolts.
Manufactured In
GO USA! Support our country and economy. There is nothing wrong with cam gears made in Asia. But generally speaking companys that produce parts in house (in the US) will be able to look over production of parts better and ensure you are getting the higher quality manufactured part. If its coming from Asia, the tolerances can (not always) be less accurate.

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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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i had experience with jg and the mark were to close together. there good, buts its hard to change it without squinting your eyes
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just updated the cam gear section on my site last night.
I have most cam gears included, but some are missing that I need to get info from like buddy club and a few others

http://www.honda-central.com/r.../page/

here is some info I wrote up about cam gears in general.

Number of Bolts
More Bolts the Better
Marks painted or machined
Definetly get laser etched or machined timing marks. If they are painted onto the cam gear surface, it is just a matter of time before the marks wear off and then you can tell where you are cam gears are set to.
Rough Weight (each)
Lighter the better. Most modern cam gears designs wont break because of advancements in stress testing the cam gears via a computer model.
Materials Used
6061 Billet Machined is Really good stuff. As long as its that or higher you are getting a cam gear that is machined from a good alloy.
Anodized Finish
Anodized finish will look the nicest and will also keep the finish for the longest. You dont want a painted finish. The adonized finish should last the life the of the cam gear.
Engineered Tooth Profile?
If the teeth arent engineered properly, then the timing belt and wear prematuraly which can lead to either the belt slipping a notch on the cam gear or it breaking completely. Both of those will result in the engine blowing up. Even though this point is rarely brought up, it makes a difference in the long run.
Easy to read timing marks?
On the JG cam gears, it was really difficult to read what timing marks. Most newer cam gears will have timing marks that are easy to read and therefore easy to set your cam gears properly for your engine. If you advance/retard your cam gear to much you can bend a valve and blow up your engine.
Bolt or Lock design
Lock/Pin design is the best in my opinion. But a properly designed bolt design will work really good. As I said earlier, more bolts the better. I would recomend getting a cam gear that uses 4 or more bolts.
Manufactured In
GO USA! Support our country and economy. There is nothing wrong with cam gears made in Asia. But generally speaking companys that produce parts in house (in the US) will be able to look over production of parts better and ensure you are getting the higher quality manufactured part. If its coming from Asia, the tolerances can (not always) be less accurate.

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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock93cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had experience with jg and the mark were to close together. there good, buts its hard to change it without squinting your eyes</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are absolutely right. I just picked them up and they are very hard to see.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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I'm using the Buddy CLub cam gears because they were on special at JHPUSA a while back. The price was good.

My only complaint about them is that they don't have a TDC mark. The timing marks are easy to read though.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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i'll recommend the TODA camgears,
just cuz they look so darned nice!!

But as for quality, I trust the AEM ones..
simple nad effective
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But as for quality, I trust the AEM ones..
simple nad effective</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 3 bolt AEM gears are pretty much THE worst gears you can buy.
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