Hit some train tracks recently that pretty much screwed the back half of my exhaust up. And since I just moved to Cali, I guess this is as good of a time as any to try and make my car pass smog.

So, it's been a while since I have done any exhaust work and I am looking for companies that have the 50 state legal claim. Greddy used to be one of them, so who else??

Also, what about Cats? I need to grab a new one of those since I am fairly sure that is what caused me to fail the first smog test.

Also, what about air intakes. 50 state legal ones that give you the sticker of authenticity and stuff??

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Seeing as how my exhaust is hanging on by a thread.

Thanks.

 

Greddy Evo2 Exhaust (they don't make them for hatchies), AEM Version2 Cold Air Intake, and Greddy exhaust manifolds are 50 state legal. They should come with paperwork saying that they are from the Departmen of Transportation.

 

definately need it for my hatch. any others?

 

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just get the one you want. because you will soon realize that a 50 state muffler will not get you out of the "modified" muffler ticket cops here in socal write. anything other than oem is considered modified and is at the officers descretion.

take the back roads and stay out of popular city blvds, good luck and enjoy the stay here!

 

yea, maybe so, but it would help me pass smog.

 

bump. ok, so here is an additional question.

I have a greddy header system which is 50 state. So as long as I have a good Catalytic converter, is it true that the rest of the exhaust doesn't matter??? Could it pass smog? I realize the cops may have a problem with it, but could it be considered *legal*???

 

there is no such thing as a 50 state legal exhaust. notice how greddy no longer advertizes their cat-backs as "street legal".

cat-back exhausts have no bearing on smog output, so they don't need be certified. also, there is no federal standard for exhaust noise, so an exhaust cannot be ceritified as "50 state" legal.

however, there are parts that need to be "50state legal" in order to pass cailfornia smog checks. headers and intakes fall into this category, as do intake manifolds and ignition systems.

cali cops can give you a ticket for having a stock muffler on your car if they want (i almost got one for a STOCK ACCORD muffler on my old accord). if it doesnt "look" stock, its considered modified and possible illegal. the only way to have a "legal" exhaust system is to have it noise certified by a BAR Refferee

as for replacement cats, make sure that its is EPA and CARB certified as a replacement for your engine displacement. you can pick one up at kragen or autozone for ~$100

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no such thing as a 50 state legal exhaust. notice how greddy no longer advertizes their cat-backs as "street legal".

cat-back exhausts have no bearing on smog output, so they don't need be certified. also, there is no federal standard for exhaust noise, so an exhaust cannot be ceritified as "50 state" legal.

however, there are parts that need to be "50state legal" in order to pass cailfornia smog checks. headers and intakes fall into this category, as do intake manifolds and ignition systems.

cali cops can give you a ticket for having a stock muffler on your car if they want (i almost got one for a STOCK ACCORD muffler on my old accord). if it doesnt "look" stock, its considered modified and possible illegal. the only way to have a "legal" exhaust system is to have it noise certified by a BAR Refferee

as for replacement cats, make sure that its is EPA and CARB certified as a replacement for your engine displacement. you can pick one up at kragen or autozone for ~$100</TD></TR></TABLE>


haa haa beat me to it....

 

Magnaflow Cat-Backs are 50 state legal (the Db rating)
and injen intakes are also 50 state legal, and come with the stickers, and docs to back up that claim, i run both, and love both

though i dont have to worry about smog ****.. thank god, i dont know how you people doit.. keep on truckin!

 

there is no such thing as a 50 state legal exhaust. notice how greddy no longer advertizes their cat-backs as "street legal".

That's not true at all. The Greddy Evo2 (it doens't fit a Hatchie) is advertised as 50 state legal. In the state of California you can have a modified exhaust as long as it's not above 95 decimals. The piping and all of that doesn't matter as long as the decimals are below 95. If you check the law book it's all there. So if a Jake (the cops) give you a ticket just go and fight it but make sure you have the facts. As far as headers are concerned if they are advertised as "state legal" then get a sticker from the Department of Transportation.

 

there is no such thing as a 50 state legal exhaust. notice how greddy no longer advertizes their cat-backs as "street legal".

That's not true at all. Check the back of Super Streets and things like that. You'll see that Greddy Evo2's are smog legal and 50 state legal as well. They don't make them for Hatchies or anything like that but that's not the point. In the state of California your exhaust can be modified as long as it's not above 95 decimals. If you do get a ticket (cause cops hate racers) then take it to court and find it. You should know the law before you do anything. If you get a header and the car smogs then it's cool. Because it's not a "smog alterning devise." If you can get the smog ref to verify then you're cool.

 

Welcome to Cali, learn to love it.

 

bump

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94HatchbackSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no such thing as a 50 state legal exhaust. notice how greddy no longer advertizes their cat-backs as "street legal".

That's not true at all. Check the back of Super Streets and things like that. You'll see that Greddy Evo2's are smog legal and 50 state legal as well. They don't make them for Hatchies or anything like that but that's not the point. In the state of California your exhaust can be modified as long as it's not above 95 decimals. If you do get a ticket (cause cops hate racers) then take it to court and find it. You should know the law before you do anything. If you get a header and the car smogs then it's cool. Because it's not a "smog alterning devise." If you can get the smog ref to verify then you're cool. </TD></TR></TABLE>

technically, ALL cat-back exhausts are 50 state EMISSIONS legal. they dont have ANY effect on the amount of smog your car puts out. but they may not meet sound requirements or may be considered a modified exhaust. if you look closely at the ad, it says "50 State Emissions Legal"

 

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Why?

There are plenty of headers and intakes you can buy that are legal.(which have already been discussed) DC Sports, Greddy(headers) InJen, AEM, and K&N MIGHT even be.(intakes) And you already have your answer about cat-backs. My suggestion Intake of your choice, DC Headers, and a Magnaflow cat-back W/ a resonator.

 

Exhausts are legal as long as they meet the sound and emissions requirement.

The "50-state street legal" moniker is for marketing purposes.

 

Any modification to your vehicle other than stock or oem parts is illegal in california. Changing your lightbulb color is even illegal. Catback piping has no effects on smog, emissions wise anthing catback is legal. Just because it is emissions legal doesn't mean that its legal to put on your car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHC4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why?

There are plenty of headers and intakes you can buy that are legal.(which have already been discussed) DC Sports, Greddy(headers) InJen, AEM, and K&N MIGHT even be.(intakes) And you already have your answer about cat-backs. My suggestion Intake of your choice, DC Headers, and a Magnaflow cat-back W/ a resonator. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why??? just because I wasn't finished yet. And also because it's obvious some people don't answer the questions I asked. ie: I never said I was looking for headers.

But anyways, thanks for the words of wisdom all. Stay safe and stop street racing!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fishnfst &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any modification to your vehicle other than stock or oem parts is illegal in california. Changing your lightbulb color is even illegal. Catback piping has no effects on smog, emissions wise anthing catback is legal. Just because it is emissions legal doesn't mean that its legal to put on your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Catback is okay as long as it meets the sound requirement and isn't in some outrageous physical configuration (low hanging exhaust, really long tailpipe, poor quality materials, etc)

You can change the headlight color as long as it is FMVSS108-compliant (lumens output and colour temperature).