ok....i am goin to have the money hopefullly soon and i can afford either swap for about the same price. So there is my delema....b16a in the rex or h22a in the accord????? which one do u think would be faster???.....this will probably happen after christmas and new years....opinions please!!!

 

the accod will be faster and funner to drive

 

hehehe....very interesting!

 

i dunno man
crx's are a blast to drive
its like a big go kart

 

which one would be faster???

 

Well kind of hard to say, but my opinion is that the CRX w/the B16 would win, but it all depends on the driver. I have friends that have a CRX w/b16 running 14.7 w/only AEM intake and stock clutch. The other friend is a 94 Accord w/a H22 in it and running 15.0-15.2 consistently only mods on that are intake and VAFC. Does that help you out at all. <U></U> http://www.intercrewautosalon.com

 

hmm....im wondering what the year is on the accord and the crx. 2dr 4dr?? (accord)

 

b16a REX..... accord is too damn big and heavy... you could make it fast but then the CRX would be more worth while

(coming from a 245hp 4door owner) and a CRX owner

 

Look up some STOCK Prelude VTEC 1/4mile times and then add a few ticks and tell me if an Accord with a 'Lude swap is fast enough.

I know a few people with some fast Accords, but it takes MORE money and patience to be fast in an Accord - you'll always have that extra weight to pull around.

I know why my friends have done this swap - they knew it wouldn't be much faster - if ANY - than a conventional Prelude with same mods.

Why would YOU do the Accord? Think about it - the main reason most do swaps is to get the more powerful motor from a HEAVIER car and drop it into a LIGHTER car.

Something to chew on...

 

I have a 1990 accord EX 4-door and a 1990 crx SI...

first...my buddie has a maxima that toasts me, and it really pisses me off. It's cool b/c we have a couple of guys together that play with the 4-doors that are fairly quick.....except for me! It would just make my day to have the lude motor in my accord so i can hang with the guys, ...even beat them!..(what a concept!! )

I just bought this crx...my second 90 si. I had the first one for 2 years now and it has been off the road for about a year and now it is down to the bare chassis ready for roll cage...goin full race. I missed driveing the crx so much i had to get another one!!! :D

NOW!...they both need to go faster, and u have seen my reasons....the work is no big deal, i can do either swap in no time at all, it's just a matter of which one i what to do first........i think i am still up in the air with both

 

Do the Accord, it will cost more but will gain more gratefication when its complete.

 

Weight is a crazy issue though, and it really affects performance as you seem to realize. I kind of compromise btwn your cars - I have a 1991 Civic EX and put a b16a in there (built) but it only gets 13.9 in the 1/4 mile.

A lesser motor in a 87 CRX here got the girl a 12.7! So weight is crazy.

BTW, I am going with CRVTEC into a 87 CRX to take care of power and weight issues...

 

Yeah but he is already building a race CRX so why build up another one for the street. Trust me when I say this, and maybe I am just biased, but there is nothing like toasting someone and they have that look on there face saying damn that Accord must have NOS or something because its not supposed to move that fast...

I enjoy it on a daily basis.

 

Accord definitely.

 

Let me put it THIS way. I had a 1992 Civis Si with a GS-R swap. My pals had the CX.VX, and DX models witht the SAME swap and LESS mods and they would spank my *** every time we raced.

Why? Because they weighed only 150-200lbs. LESS than my car did. I had to make more power just to run even with them. I ended up selling the GS-R swap and getting an ITR swap JUST to stay a step ahead. I was making 25 more whp than them, and I managed to run .5 better in the 1/4 mile because of it.

WEIGHT SUCKS!

I just sold the Si to drop all my contents into a lighter CX chassy. I expect to see at least .4 off the 1/4 mile time JUST because of the weight difference alone.

And to the guy who said ONLY 13.9 - like that's slow? You'd have to shoot some hellafied NOS or BOOST like crazy in ANY Accord to pull 13.9's - EVEN WITH an H22A in the Accord.

 

hell yeah cause i know of cars with over 300whp and got times of around 13.7@115mph (411whp) and then 322whp ran 13.1@107... both in 4 door taurus' so it takes alot of power to move those cars.......

 

I have a friend with I/H/E in a CRX w/b16a and ran 14.6
I have another friend that had I/H/E in an Accord w/H22A and ran 14.8

Both were running ACT clutches. You be the judge.

 

The CR-X had WHICH tranny? Y1? S1? J1? YS1?

It makes a difference. If it wasn't a J1 or other good-geared tranny, then sure it might not be as fast as it should be.

 

That was a 4 door civic with modded b16a that did 13.9.

Too damn slow, even though it was set up for handling so going with a CRX and BIGGER motor - gonna get that chick with her 12.7

 

a b18b with a jdm s1 or usdm ys1 tranny will be faster then a b16a ..

i've ran 14.1@ 95 with my crx si with a b18b with a jdm s1 tranny with i/h/e

 

wow! I love the replys, thanks a ton for the interest!

hummm....first, i like the comment from kiDD saying how great it would be to have my 4-door done and start walkin on people! It would be great poblicity, b/c i just got my own shop up and am trying to get it goin. It's cool b/c i have a lot of guys that support me and come to the shop to hang out and work on our rides. I think that if i did my accord and started walking all over people with my accord, it would be great poblisity for the shop. ( i would just have to make sure i put the shop banner on the REAR of the car!...hehehe).

The other thing is that i never thought about doin the b18b in the rex. c, the most important thing here is $$$! I would have to look into it and see how cost effective it would be, plus it's tough haveing 2 crx's and trying to mod both....i mean at this rate, by the time i build my b18c5 up for my other crx, turbo it, cage it, completely redo the entire suspension and brakes (planing on swappin entire setup to 5 gen civic and then goin 5 lug itr with big brakes), etc...i won't be able to house or feed myself for about 3-5 months.... !! ...damn this is tough!

i hear ya on the weight issue, i mean just hearing all your testomonies on this stuff makes it so evident that no matter what motor u build up, if it ain't in the right chassis, you will have the best view of there tail lights . it's tempting now to sell my accord and opt for another 90 DX 2 door!!!, but i love my baby too much...

damn...its' still a toss up...actually, is there anyone with any of these motors or does anyone know anybody who has a really good hook up??? If it helps, i am a dealer so i could do wholesale or whatever...thanks!!!

 

I can point you in the right direction for getting a lude engine if you want to upgrade your Accord. Again its up to you, but that is the only reason why I dump money in my car today, just for the satisfaction of not being a civic/crx/integra. Accords are not know for going fast, so when one does then its a force to be reconed with.

 

I have a 90 accord 4dr fully equipped interior and accessories with a H22a/ bolt-ons. I have run a 14.1 @98MPH (2.1 60') NO BS. it was at a NIRA event in phoenix AZ. This supprised a lot of civs,crx, and integs running slightly slower times at the event. The accords can be made to go fast and handle well as mine is set up for road racing. It is still my family car (yes Baby seat in back). You should see the look on the faces of some of the guys after they just got beat by a family car. The engine is now a 2.6ltr and i am looking for 12's N/A fully equipped.

Check it out @ http://www.collectiveracing.net


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