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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Default Catch can: What hoses won't collapse?

I am looking for some high quality hoses to attach to my catch can that won't collapse under the engine bay head.

What do you recommend?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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regular fuel hoses
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">regular fuel hoses </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed. the crappy nylon reinforced hoses that came with mine collapsed once they got warm... ditched them immediatly for regular fuel hosing. Fuel hosing is build to withstand positive internal pressure, but is also great for negative internal pressure.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Theres no such thing as negative pressure... It's called vaccum
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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dennis

ive been running the endyne style breather kit w/ the nylon hoses for ever, and no problems what so ever, and so have a numerous other people i know.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Where did you buy yours Arno?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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a plumbing supply near work.

I believe we have some left over if you want i can check.

any home depot will have it, its pretty inexpensive.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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What kind of catch can do you have?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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you could run Aeroquip / Earls if you must haveth the bling.

I use regular fuel hose.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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I bought some regular 3/8s fuel hose today. I compared it to the bridgestone fuel hose that came with the catch can and the bridgestone is definately more quality. Much more dense with more of the threads(?) inside.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Just got back from the track last weekend and the hoses collapsed!

Anyone have any suggestions for heavy duty ones? The ones I ran were regular fuel line hoses.

Could it be the location? I have it sitting pretty far away right next to the driver side headlight where the windshield washer resevoir used to be.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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how the ****?

well you could try coolant lines
they have more threads in them

are you routing them that they touch a heat source?


i can't understand how you collapsed rubber fuel hose lines
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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The fuel lines got really mushy and soft and as soon as I moved them, they curled up on me.

They really aren't touching anything HOT. I'll take a pic of it when I have time.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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how do you have your setup routed?

PCV-&gt;catch can-&gt;manifold ?

return line? no return line?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dan GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you have your setup routed?

PVC-&gt;catch can-&gt;manifold ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly.

I also filled it completely up this weekend.

1st and 2nd sessions it did not catch anything.

3rd session = half full

4th session = full, almost maxed out

I drained it immediately after the 4th session. On the trip home, not one drop.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Maybe your PCV valve is stuck closed?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cod Sac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe your PCV valve is stuck closed? </TD></TR></TABLE>

How can I test?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly.

I also filled it completely up this weekend.

1st and 2nd sessions it did not catch anything.

3rd session = half full

4th session = full, almost maxed out

I drained it immediately after the 4th session. On the trip home, not one drop. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe your oil temps got too high during the 3rd 4th sessions.


i was chatting with some people who race alot of high out B series motor's and say its very normal for them to use oil, or catch can's to fill up quickly, nature of the best i guess
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How can I test? </TD></TR></TABLE>

take it out, and shake it, it should rattle


one thing you can do, its ghetto, but it works pretty good

is clean in out with brake cleaner, just make sure to dry it out good before reinstallation
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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please post up when you find a solution.

my carbing catch can sucks the hoses shut too.....
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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You can blow on it. It shouldn't let you blow. Then suck on it. It should open up. You should be able to do it with a hose attached. Oh and don't do it while the engine is running.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Catch can: What hoses won't collapse? (Dan GSR)

3rd and 4th sessions were definately hotter as the outside temps did increase and I was pushing the car a lot harder.

No oil was burned during the session.

How does heat relate to the catch can accumulating more oil? Isn't it really all based on vacuum?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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viscosity will change with temperature
my guess is that a thinner oil is easier to suck into the can
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dan GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">viscosity will change with temperature
my guess is that a thinner oil is easier to suck into the can</TD></TR></TABLE>
That logic works for me. Thanks.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dan GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">viscosity will change with temperature
my guess is that a thinner oil is easier to suck into the can</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep, try runing an oil with a higher temp rating, RJ. i think was running 50 or something like that
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