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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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alright, ive waited about 2 weeks to see if my springs were going to settle, in which they have, but not really enough in some places. im using h&r race on koni yellows. ive left the perch on the middle slot and in the front i can still put my fist in between the tire and fender. almost looks stock, and in the rear on the left side it has about a 2 finger gap and on the right side it has about a 3 finger gap. why are they not sitting the same?. do you guys think it would be safe for me to put the perch on the lowest setting to try and drop it a little more? i don't really want to blow my koni yellows so id rather sit high than destroy them. the only odd thing ive seen about how the spring is sitting is that it hangs off the edge of the perch just a tad, but it should still be a little lower wouldn't you think? if people need pictures i can take some tonight, ive got to replace my axles so i can snap a couple of pics. btw its a crx hf if anyone was wondering. thanks to anyone who can help out.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Good springs don't settle.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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a kid I knew put genuine eibach's on his newish monte carlo (rolls eyes) and I watched them settle myself over the following couple of days. it was actually a little hard to tell it was lowered at first, (the springs were supposed to drop it like 1.8 inches or something like that) but it probably lost a good inch or so in the next couple of days. dunno why. I thought it was normal.

do you keep it parked on a flat level spot? that's all I could think of.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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these springs were supposed to drop me around 2.5 inches, which is why i found it odd that the fronts were almost stock looking. i guess when i mean seatle i actually mean lower as far as the front goes. anyone else have any clues? im about to just lower the perch to the lowest it can go.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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That same **** happens all the time..Its not the springs..
Its the bushings. Try reseting the bushings..
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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the bushings would cause me to be able to put my whole fist between the fender and the wheel? or because it is sitting uneven in the rear? from what i saw i don't remember seeing too many bushings while i was installing my rear koni's and springs?
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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did you tighten any bolts with the car in the air? try tightening them when it is on the ground.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Origin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the bushings would cause me to be able to put my whole fist between the fender and the wheel? or because it is sitting uneven in the rear? from what i saw i don't remember seeing too many bushings while i was installing my rear koni's and springs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ur whole fist?? ...Something is wrong then..

Make sure its intsalled correctly and make make sure all bolts are tight....
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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ive tried both actually as far as the bolts in the back they were in the air and then i rechecked them and they still seems nice and snug when placed on the ground. i tried to tighten the nuts on the main shaft of the shock and all it would do is spin after getting so tight ( i couldn't ever reach a complete 25 ft pounds with the torque wrench, some people said it was okay, others said to use a impact wrench which i was a little too scared to try. it feels as if it is riding real nice and i have it on the softest setting. do you guys think that if i lowered the ring down one more knotch for the perch to sit lower that it would be too low and possibly blow my shocks? also, i know it shouldn't be too low in the front but as far as the rear, they might be tucked into the fender-well after i lower it. im going to try and snap a few pictures before i proceed with lowering it further. thanks for the help so far guys.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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alright, i got snap a couple pics of one of the sides while i was replacing my axles. both sides look pretty much the same, the spring is kinda hanging off. is that normal?





also, can anyone suggest a good way of getting the circle clip out so i can lower the perch to the bottom slot. i was thinking of maybe trying a spring compressor or something and seeing if it could get the clip out? what kind of tools will i need to get that clip out. is it sorta like the tool you use to get the clip off the lower ball joints? thanks.


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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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i have these springs in mt crx and they settled alot more in the rear then in the front but once I put my bseries in the nose took the dive I was looking for
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Yeah i have these springs in my rex also,and they lowered more in the front then they did in the back,its not as low as i would want it to be,but it gives a nice aggressive rake look to it...not sure whats wrong with your setup,maybe its the darn koni's,i dont know.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Um the cup that holds the spring on is upsidown

Also move the C-clip that holds the cup down to the lower perch for teh krunkness
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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wow, im really happy you noticed that. heres a picture of the cup



sorry for the crappy pic, but as it sits it is upside down right? thats how i installed it. so by flipping that cup i should be able to drop down another 1/4 of an inch or so. also what is the best method for taking that c-clip out? is there a special tool or can i substitute a tool to work the same. thanks alot.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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put some weight on the pass. side to dipalce your fat azz. lol J/K.

this looks to be part of the problem (the "cup" look upside down)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .nate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um the cup that holds the spring on is upsidown

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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do you guys think that if i drop the c-clip down to the very bottom ill risk blowing my konis, the springs are supposed to drop me 2.5 as it is. not too sure on that.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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what's the height limit that Koni still warranties their product? I'd say nomore than an inch below that.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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It looks like the lower spring perch is not installed correct.

Hondas don't take to lowering well If you lower it too much the springs will rattle bang and make noises you don't want to hear wile driving. I have tociko adjustable I had springs that were stock not impressive so I put nuwspeed short springs on and it lowered it 3 inches it looked great but rode like hell. I then bought some coil overs the coil overs work well, handles great its lowered 1 inch it rides hard but its handling is dialed in. I could lower it more but it will rattle and shake. I still would like a lowering kit that will lower it and not rattle and shake.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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rattling and shaking isn't so much of a big deal, this isn't my daily driver. i don't want it to handle like crap though so i would rather functionality than looks. i did buy some bumpstops and I cut them in half. is there still a possibility of blowing the shocks even with having shortened bumpstops? also, im on 13 inch ( i believe) steelies. maybe this will cause me to have more space between the wheel and fender also. thanks again guys.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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how high is ur car off the ground dont go by rim to fender cuz u have the steelies so taht will make that a bigger gap but u will be low to the ground. well anywho check ur ground clearance and then u will have ur answer if they r working also. the reason that the left side is a bit lower than the right is bcuz u dont have a passanger all the time. the left will just take a bit longer to settle. good luck
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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so this might be a stupid idea but if i got some spare bags of cement and sat them in there for a week or so would that help to settle everything out, i guess it couldn't hurt?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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i dont think it would hurt.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxstreetracer90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> the reason that the left side is a bit lower than the right is bcuz u dont have a passanger all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or it could be the wieght of the motor on the left side :rollseyes, fix the cups and give it about 3-4 weeks for the springs to settle, they wont change over night, also what size wheel and tire are you running a fist on steelies might be 1/2 in on 16s
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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is it me or do those springs look like they should go one the back? the back ones usually have the coils together on the top side right? i may be wrong i dont know
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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umm yea.
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