I was reading up on emissions and stuff for the final stuff on pegoda, and i came across this and i thought to myself that would be the most awesome sticker on my car. A certified CA smog sticker with all my info and my new engine "legalized" I was wondering if anyone has accomplished this and if yes, could you post how you did, and what bolt ons you have. Just curious b/c i thought it would be badass to not have a cop pop you b/c of your engine......check out the link

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

 

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People have already done smog legal b20 swaps

 

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Where?

 

I belive storminmatt's is smog legal.

 

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The law says no. No truck/SUC engines in a regular car.
Whomever did it (so you say they have) didn't do it legally.

 

I don't know if it means the popo can't say **** i might have to invest some more time into finding out how to get this done, with the sticker and everything.....but we'll see.

 

Any car engine can go into any car. But a truck/suv engine will never be smog legal (at least in CA) in a car.

-Jon

 

how about different manufacture car engines into different manufacture cars?

 

A car engine is a car engine. As long as it meets the smog requirements. I'm sure it'll go through.

-Jon

 

yeah i guess an engine is an engine. But to a cop. DOHC in a car form the early 90's means one less kid he has to pickup. So i mean i want to find the process of making Pegoda LEGAL with that engine. SO no worries when i pull up next to a cop and he's eyeballing me.

 

Just so you know, I wrote that page that you linked too.

I'll bite; what is "pegoda"?

Wes

 

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I'll bite; what is "pegoda"?

Wes</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pegoda is the name of his car.

I was looking for a name for my car, pegoda it is

 

stealing my name. Bastard....hehehe whatever...
It's from royal tenebaums. He's the badass hindu guy that's frail but so badass. I figure it's only appropriate i call my 45(dynoed) hp beast with a badass name.

Ummm yeah.....you wrote that page. You think i could keep all the Hf emission **** and slap it on that XSI and have it register for smog. B/c that "certificate" is my new goal. I honestly wet myself when i saw that. i was like the answer to all my problems. B/c all my brother and family said is, "good luck with smog you douchebag it'll never pass" my bro:"pegoda will die and i will **** on it's heart hwne it doesn't and you spent all this $$ for nothing" hahahaha....I'm interested on how i might go about that......"legalize" cop pulls me over, read it and weep, and then as Charlie murphy said, "Get outta here before cut some bacon off your back"

 

From my understanding you won't be able to legally smog a jdm motor.

 

Burly;

I did a search on you name and found out that you are dealing with a 90 CRX hf and have put a JDM B16A in it. It's key to know in order to tell you what you are facing.

First off, it's possible to get a JDM engine through the Referee. HOWEVER, some referees (including the one near me) say that they will not allow one. The wording of the state "guidelines" are vague. It's best if you can talk to the referee that you are planning on have check the car to get his opinion. If he says no, then locate another referee. When you call to set up your appointment, you can request any Referee station that you want!

To make the engine legal, you will have to convert it to the same specs as a US 94 Del Sol. The reason is that it was the first year that a B16 was available in the US. This means that you will have to convert the car to OBD1.

In converting to OBD1, get a "conversion" loom from one of the individuals that sell them on this board. I'm not going to recommend anybody due to not having to buy one myself. Ask around as to who gives the best "after-sale" service.

Converting from an HF car is a little bit harder, but I don't know the specifics.

You can install aftermarket parts if they have a Carb EO number that is for the year of the engine. As an example, I've got DC Sport headers and they are certified for the installed B18C. The same thing goes for the Skunk 2 intake manifold.

Although the Referee that checked my car didn't look at it, I'd recommend that you have the exact correct ECU for the Del Sol engine.

On a closing note; I'm old and have to say that if you have a shitty attitude toward a cop that pulls you over, the sticker will not stop him from "f"ing with you!!!!!

 

Oh i know the cop has every right to Pull me over, and then bend me over. It's just one less thing i can get yelled t. Plus i always act curtious and stuff, Thankfully CHP is totally chill with little stuff, it's when you start running over stuff and speeding faster then their camaros that they get upset. Plus San diego gets all the NEWbie cops from el centro and they want to be all gun-ho on cracking down and this and that. so whatever. Arggh...maybe that legalizing my car will have to hapeen next summer.
Thanks guys

 

Just a question about the "visual" test. They don't do any such thing in new york:

They don't say anything about the missing front engine mount? With a B-Block in a USDM 4th gen you're not using the front mount. That doesn't arouse suspicion from a "normie." I don't know what they're looking for but if I didn't know about honda's and saw that engine in there I'd say where the hell is the front mount? ::fail::

What exactly are they looking for with the "visual" inspection? Because that guy made a point to say that he had the stock air-box in and that made a lot of difference... so i figure something as large as a 3 point mounted engine made for 4 point would be a problem.

 

make sure EVERYTHING is hooked up, no leaky **** and you should pass. you have to make an appt with the ref [ive heard there isnt anymore reffing in CA but i could be wrong]

 

Damn thank goodness I live in Miami.

No emissions here and don't have to worry about legalize anything.

I mean lets face it, my car would never pass emissions with the big *** FMIC.

 

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No emissions here and don't have to worry about legalize anything.

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i envy you. this is what we california's have to put up with for good weather

 

Eumoria;

What happens here in California is that if you get stopped by the police or go to a "standard" smog check (required every two years) and they notice that you have a modified or swapped engine, they require that you go to a state run Referee to have it checked. They can notify DMV and even if your not scheduled for a smog check that year, they will not let you register the car.

The engine mounts that I used were based on the Place Racing (now out of business) units and there are four. I personally don't think that a Referee would have a problem with a three mount system as long as all evidence of the front mount was removed.

On the visual part of the inspection, they are looking to see that everything that is smog related is there as there would be in the original car the engine came out of.

As an example, the O2 sensor has to be mounted in the correct location and as in my installation has to be a four wire unit.

All of the hoses should be the factory ones as much as possible. If you have to run a non-factory hose, it should have what it's rated for clearly marked on the hose. Good quality hose is available at a auto parts stores but you have to make sure it's marked. If not, go to another store!!!

All aftermarket parts have to have a Carb EO number. It has to be for the type and year of the engine. What can be a problem is air intakes for cars with swaps. In my case (B18C with Skunk 2 manifold) in a 89 Civic hatchback, there isn't any manifold that would fit and be "legal". That meant that I had to hook up the stock air filter box and connect to it with a modified LS Integra air tube.


CRX T-si; It really gets boring hearing about other areas that don't have to get their cars smog checked! It's a reality here and can be taken care of. As I said in one of my earlier posts, I'm old (OLD). As a result, I can remember when it was possible to swap anything into anything else. I can remember when gas was of good quality and didn't cost an arm and a leg. That's changed and we have to deal with the current situation. So, it's to individuals that go the legal route and to others that don't have anything positive to say but feel the need to say something. (sorry to rag!)

Wes

 

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U say make an appointment, but then u say it doesnt exist. It is true that u have to make an appointment, and it is true that reffing does still exist. I know this because my friend just got a ticket and has to go see a state ref.

 

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then maybe it still does exist. there were rumors about the state closing down that **** to cut to help the state buget. i got my old civic ref'd at my school [local jr college's auto dept.]

 

It's crazy. I just put an excellent Carb legal magnaflow exhuast with a high flow cat on the car. I have everything stock. The Emission box on the firewall is all from the HF. All the stuff is correctly positioned....i hope this new idea od changing everything over to the USDM Emission ****.....
ok school time.

 

Burley;

Slow down! It's not all that bad!!

My car had an aftermarket cat and muffler system. As long as the cat is CARB approved, it's ok. Mufflers are pretty much fair game unless it's real loud. The Referee did look under the car to see the Cat and also the location of the O2 sensor. He didn't ask for proof if the Cat was legal or not and it's obviously not stock.

I don't know what "emission box" you are talking about, so I can't say anything about it.

I'd recommend that you go to a junk yard and just take a look at a Del Sol. Think about where all the vacuum lines go to and if that item isn't currently on your car, just install it.

It's not that bad.

Wes