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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 09:14 PM
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just curious about what lap times are on the big course ,sorry never been to summit for car races ,my bro and boss are both pro 250cc roadracers ,just wondering what times the almighty honda cars run?
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 09:34 PM
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250cc is gonna be wicked fast out at SP. Jason in his ITA CRX's ran down to 1:26 or 1:27, I forget. There's a Grand-Am prepped Type R that ran 1:24.9, now that is flying for a production car!

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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 09:38 PM
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thats goin pretty damn fast ,`my bro does 18's and my boss does low to mid 16s so those times are damn good
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 09:50 PM
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Me in a Spec RX-7: 1:35s
A great driver in a Spec RX-7: 1:33s

Fast GT1 or Trans Am cars: 1:14s

Track record: 1:07 (in a FA at roughly 127 average speed)
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 09:51 PM
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1:07?!?! I thought it was 1:09. Did someone bust it this year?

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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 10:00 PM
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Yeah, 1:07 at the Spring National in a Formula Atlantic. Pretty scary - his average speed is 10mph higher than my RX-7's max speed. Yikes!
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 10:06 PM
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yikes is right thats daammnn fast
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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 05:52 AM
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i ran 1:34 or 1:35 on street tires and stock supension in my 92 civic hatch
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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 06:31 AM
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i ran 1:34 or 1:35 on street tires and stock supension in my 92 civic hatch
That is hauling a$$

I went 1:31.99 -1:32's :-/ need a little work, the driver not the car

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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 07:01 AM
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Down to 1:30s in the prelude.. Yea, that Grand Am ITR was wicked fast!
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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 07:57 AM
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Down to 1:30s in the prelude.. Yea, that Grand Am ITR was wicked fast!
Heck yea! I was amazed! 1.8 power baby

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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 08:29 AM
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suspension is where it is at!!!! make that chasis stiff an you'll have a stiffy!! lol
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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 08:47 AM
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Track record: 1:07 (in a FA at roughly 127 average speed)

Unofficial track record: 1:00.5 in a Penske Indycar a few years ago.

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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 10:15 AM
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I managed to click off a high 1:32 during the June NASA race, and was in the 1:33s pretty consistently during the November race (which was good for fastest lap in the small bore group for one of the races).

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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 10:51 AM
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1:33.7 in my ITS Sentra SE-R -- should be a bit quicker around March.
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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 11:50 AM
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1:32 in PCA I class 944 (a bit more stock than SCCA ITS)
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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 12:02 PM
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thats goin pretty damn fast ,`my bro does 18's and my boss does low to mid 16s so those times are damn good

BTW- I didn't realize the 250's were that fast. My housemate does 1:25's on his 93 Ducati 900SS racebike, and I thought *that* sounded damn quick.

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Old Dec 15, 2001 | 01:10 PM
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I probably ran a 1:35 or so...oh, you guys are talking about the full course, not the Jefferson Circuit. My mistake.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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Default current SP ITS lap record = 1:26

Ed York in his E36 325is. Old SP ITS lap record = 1:27, Ed York in his E30 325is.

Jason in his ITA CRX's ran down to 1:26 or 1:27, I forget.
If your friend is running 1:26s in his ITA CRX it sure gives the guys that want the CRXs moved to ITS some ammo I know ths ITA CRXs are running damn close to ITS times, a few points higher maybe?

ITA = spec CRX

There's a Grand-Am prepped Type R that ran 1:24.9, now that is flying for a production car!
That would be the Moorcones/Himes car? 2:17 at VIR, before it was destroyed when Allen went off in the uphill esses. They did finally finished a race -- the last one of the year, Daytona, back in Nov.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 10:58 AM
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How in the world does an ITA CRX lap as quick as a Ducati 900SS Racebike...wtf
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 06:54 PM
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I don't think Jason ran a 1:27 during a SCCA race, I think it was during qualifying, or maybe NASA.

Ed got trounced by the boys from Bimmerworld @ VIR. They are seriously fast.

Paul was actually the one that crashed at the Glen. The car that ran a 1:24.9 @ SP is identical, but the car is owned by Dennis Lentz, who money shifted the same weekend he ran that time. Oops.

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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 08:09 PM
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How in the world does an ITA CRX lap as quick as a Ducati 900SS Racebike...wtf

First of all, 1:27 in an ITA car is a little hard for me to believe. 28-29, sure. But 27's? Really? Damn, I gotta watch more MARRS races...

Secondly, the Duc in question has the 2-valve, 904cc motor, and was mostly stock this season (its first as a racebike)... which means it's got a lot of torque, but it still makes less than 90 wheel hp. Sure, it weighs less than 400 pounds, but that's not a ton of HP as far as bikes go (and nowhere near as good of a power-to-weight ratio as a 250cc racebike would have).

Thirdly... this brings the subject of much debate between myself and the few bike racers I know. They simply can't corner as fast, and they can't brake as late. Which means they aren't but so much faster down the straights, where they could ordinarily make up a whole bunch of time. This particular Duc would do an 11-sec 1/4 mile, but that doesn't mean squat if it exits T10 at Summit ~20mph slower than an ITA CRX, or goes thru T3 10mph slower. See what I mean? The simple physics of 2 wheels vs. 4 wheels comes into play here.

I'll guarantee you that Ducati is much sexier than the CRX, though.

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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 03:53 AM
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1:43 in the Accord, on street tires
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 04:02 AM
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i was told i ran 1:34/35 in a gsr with street tires.
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 06:02 AM
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Default Re: current SP ITS lap record = 1:26 (Warren)

Ed got trounced by the boys from Bimmerworld @ VIR. They are seriously fast.
yup, but VIR is their home track. I'd like to see what would happen with them and Ed at SP. They don't do the MARRS though.

Paul was actually the one that crashed at the Glen.
Right. Allen crashed at VIR. The car was pretty well wrecked twice this year.

The car that ran a 1:24.9 @ SP is identical, but the car is owned by Dennis Lentz, who money shifted the same weekend he ran that time.
How many cars does he have????



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