I'm planning to buy an AFC for my S2k, a friend of mine has his installed on his s2k and i think it's great, it helps you to adjust custom air - fuel ratio etc...
What do you guys think about this? cons and pros?
What else can i change in my car using that?

 

i am assuming that you are talking about a v-afc.....

v= meaning able to control vtec activation point....

the v afc will enable you to adjust your air fuel ratios and adjust the vtec activation point

pros= good for lite to moderate tuning... i.e intake, header, exhaust, maybe cams...

to get the most tuning ability i would recommend an aem ems standalone system.... or any other standalone

there are tons of tuning possibilities with standalone engine management...

 

unless you're running a turbo or SC car there is no need for the ems. You can't tune NA that much because that motor is already tweeked.

VAFC is a great addition, you can get the harness which makes it a SUPER easy instalation. Its nice to play around with, i just installed mine last week and love it.

 

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you have no idea what you are talking about......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver S2k4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unless you're running a turbo or SC car there is no need for the ems. You can't tune NA that much because that motor is already tweeked.

VAFC is a great addition, you can get the harness which makes it a SUPER easy instalation. Its nice to play around with, i just installed mine last week and love it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO ... you should be d!ck slap ...

 

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VAFC is a great addition, you can get the harness which makes it a SUPER easy instalation. Its nice to play around with, i just installed mine last week and love it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

think twice man before you make such bold statements like that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver S2k4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unless you're running a turbo or SC car there is no need for the ems. You can't tune NA that much because that motor is already tweeked.

VAFC is a great addition, you can get the harness which makes it a SUPER easy instalation. Its nice to play around with, i just installed mine last week and love it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


blah...

 

i'd go with a hondata for the S, vafc will not do it justice

 

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i dont' think there is a hondata for the S.. unless it came out recently.. i thought they scrapped the project of making one... hummm..

 

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think twice man before you make such bold statements like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you made only, what 2 more wheel horsepower?


I actually just installed my VAFC, but haven't gone to get it tuned yet. It's not doing anything right now except just making pretty lights in the car. Hoping to pick up at least 10 more whp with the intake, exhaust, and the AFC tuned.

 

10 rwhp is def possible in the midrange and a lil top end...just make sure u get a good header and exhaust to provide the gains and a good tuner


Modified by Project SSAP1 at 10:42 AM 10/9/2004

 

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i dont' think there is a hondata for the S.. unless it came out recently.. i thought they scrapped the project of making one... hummm..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you are right, i think they scrapped the Hondata for the S.

Other than AEM EMS, do other companies like MOTEC make an application for the S?

Also, there is one EMS I've just come across recently, Electromotive Tec III, anyone else know of it?

 

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there's no hondata for the s2000 and I don't think there ever will be one.

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Other than AEM EMS, do other companies like MOTEC make an application for the S?

Also, there is one EMS I've just come across recently, Electromotive Tec III, anyone else know of it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Motec doesn't sell PNP units unless they started doing things differently recently. It's all custom stuff that needs to be wired in with new sensors. Imagine running a whole new engine wiring harness? That's why you don't see many Motec or "other" standalone systems. I would say the AEM EMS is one of the best investments for this car...only if there's a competant tuner for it.

 

Think before i type? How much hp gains are you going to get from putting an ems on a stock S? On a turbo or SC car there is actually something to tune. The only think you can do with an EMS to a stock car is lean it and blow it. Why don't you think before you type and di@k slap yourself.

 

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I would call you a tool that got left out in the rain. I have to tell you again to think before you type, in fact, just stop thinking, it's not doing you any good

http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/...10129

 

Whats the link you sent? It has no picture of the dyno chart.

I just don't see the point in spending $1,500 on the ems to tune a stock motor. Maybe if he had some bolt ons that actually changed things around, but the only people i know that have the EMS are all FI'ed. I don't know too much about that but thats why i'm here, to learn stuff.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver S2k4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the link you sent? It has no picture of the dyno chart.

I just don't see the point in spending $1,500 on the ems to tune a stock motor. Maybe if he had some bolt ons that actually changed things around, but the only people i know that have the EMS are all FI'ed. I don't know too much about that but thats why i'm here, to learn stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dyno chart is on the link. Try accessing the webpage from another computer. If you don't know much and want to learn, don't make statements as if they were fact. That car was bone stock except for an intake and the gains are clear from tuning via an EMS.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silver S2k4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just don't see the point in spending $1,500 on the ems to tune a stock motor. Maybe if he had some bolt ons that actually changed things around, but the only people i know that have the EMS are all FI'ed. I don't know too much about that but thats why i'm here, to learn stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to bring a thread back from the dead, but do you justify $1500 plus for a Mugen Exhaust?

It's been proven over and over, that the stock ECU is the real restriction on this car. The car runs rich from the factory, or at least mine does. My car runs rich as hell.

If you are here to learn, then why try to prove someone wrong with something you are not knowledgeable about? Vapor's been running the EMS for a while now. I'd be running it too if I had the money, but I don't so I'm not running it.

I suggest reading up on the EMS a little more, you will be surprised by the actual value you get from it.

 

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I suggest reading up on the EMS a little more, you will be surprised by the actual value you get from it. </TD></TR></TABLE>