Ok, generally speaking I know that a high compression car on race gas is not considered streetable. But where is the line drawn?

Lately I have been hearing about people dynoing k24a/k20a frank all motor setups and hitting in the 300-400 range. Of course as you all know, in drag racing you never hear exact dyno numbers and detailed setups because of obvious reasons...

To most people getting 250whp+ out of a k series all motor engine is something worth talking about. But when compression starts climbing up to 15 and octane to 110, I hear comments like " that is like comparing a NASCAR car to my car etc... " or , "that doesn't count...." etc...

basically, what are the limits for streetable all motor cars? What do you consider realistic?

Thank for any input on this,

Nikos

 

I say streetable means you can drive safely in stop-go rush traffic and fill it up on premium pump gas. That's my only criteria.

 

For me, not doing any changes to the car to race on the track except for maybe putting on some drag radials or lowering your tire pressure. Basically the way I run the car on the track is the same setup it runs on the street.

 

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This is what I believe!

 

i had to use 110 on my daily driven lsvtec, but thats because my head was milled 65 thousandths, and i had pr3 pistons. there is a 76 station that sells 110 on the pump by my old house. this was my only car, so i drove it everywhere. 5 bucks a gallon sucked though

 

pump gas = 94octane and lower, regardless of what it comes out of

 

intersting topic i find my self asking the same questions like how high is to high

 

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this is what I always have known and still believe till this day

if u can do this then u are a true street car if not it is a trailer queen car

 

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I agree.

 

If it can be driven with the same means that any soccer mom can drive, it is streetable. Pump gas, safe in the rain, street legal, idles fine, clutch doesn't require arnold schwarzenegger to depress.

 

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i say as far as pump gas doesnt matter what ever u have to run to make ur goals work . i dont think drag radials are to safe in the rain so be careful and dont drive stupid in wet conditions. and as far as idle goess i would say whatever it takes to keep it running. then the clutch if u have that much power u need that clutch i guess it sucks for u. the car i think being legal is the only thing i would say that makes it streetable. and how many soccer moms u know can drive stick and if they can and they cant handle it to bad, tell her to take the van to practices. if the car itself is legal in the states then hey its street legal. thats what i think

 

u can drive it on the street... thats about my only criteria... if u wanna (or have to) run on race gas and drive it on the street. then go right ahead

 

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I agree 100% As long as I can get to work without having to use race gas, and not worried about being pulled over for something its streetable

 

Streetable?

(1)Enough torque down low to drive in stop and go traffic getting to the Pentagon.

(2)Easily obtainable pump gas (93 US method)

(3)A steady enough idle that it doesn't require blipping to keep the motor running or to get off the line at a green light.

(4)Has better gas mileage than a Challenger 2.

(5)Quiet enough not to attract the attention of every state trooper within 1/2 mile.

(6)Easily passes state safety inspections, if not local emissions inspections, without having to grease any palms.

(7)No worries about having to stop and pick up pistons that've flown thorugh the front lid on acceleration. To be "streetable" IMHO, a motor should be close to original Honda reliability, at least for tens of thousands of miles.

 

 

well what you people are saying isnt going to be to great of a street car then, it will be rather slow.

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if nikos is asking whats the most hp well still being streetable. then thats not going happen to have reliability and high horsepower, they dont go together in the same sentence.

look at the old school guys in like ie. 69 camaro's a and what not running big blocks huge drag radials or slicks on the street what u going to pull up not to one and be like dam i would race him but i choose to run pump gas and want reliability and safety, owell no u run what u need to run to try and beat them, or anyone else

as long as it past emissons it streetable (no motor what u had in the car at time, lol)


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by the way whats does that get