Alright guys I'm sitting here trying to figure out what I want to do with my teg. For a few months now I've been looking into NA applications and Turbo Apps. Everyone of you will probably tell me to go turbo, but I'm lookin gat the integra and telling myself this is not a motor to turbo......no torque! Yes adding the turbo will help that, but I feel this engine should be a na motor. I've driven a turbo gsr recently and it was hella fun.....but I also drove one of my friends NA Gsr's and just having the ability to shift at 9500 rpms is awsome. I've had turbo cars in the past and I'm torn. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOney is avaible for whatever way I go so thats not an issue! Please give me some guidance.

P>S the car will be a daily driver, but it will also see a far share of racing!!!!!! And just to fill you in I have a 99 GSR!

 

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Go Turbo

 

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Forced induction is expensive, but N/A is even MORE expensive to get anywhere near the power of a turbo setup on only MILD boost (7-9 psi).

N/A is great for any kind of racing (the legal kinds that is).

Forced induction is great for drag racing and maybe road racing, probably too much for autocross. But IMHO FWD Hondas should be raced around corners, not just in straight lines, as the suspension design is one of the 90's Civic/Integra platforms many assets.

Forced induction is harder on the engine, N/A should be more reliable, provided that it's built up correctly with skill and care.

tough choice

 

Not everyone is like this, but people I've been meeting keeps saying, oh your getting a turbo, you wimp and all that, turbos are fun don't get me wrong, but lately it seems like a lot of people want all motor for some reason, Patrick is right, turbo are powerful but put abuse, and NA's can be just as powerful with a little more money but more reliable, I would say go with a NA setup, me personally thats what I would do

 

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actually N/A is ALOT more expensive, and will never have the power potential of forced induction.

Tony the Tiger's GS-R is probably one of the baddest N/A Integras I've ever seen, running a 2.0L block and 14.5:1 CR and 9200 RPM redline. I don't know what kind of numbers it's putting down, but back when it was still 1.8L (bored to 1825 cc) with full TODA valve train, headwork, upgraded internals including 12.2:1 CR pistons, 310cc injectors, 3" exhaust and lots of other stuff, he was putting down just shy of 220 hp and 145 lb ft. I can't wait to see what kind of numbers it puts down w/ a "big block" B18C and huge compression ratio.

With a mild turbo setup you can easily put down 250 fwhp and way more than 145 lb ft of torque. If you spend the same amount of money on forced induction as you would have on a fully built N/A setup, you could probably get up into the 400+ hp range. I think it would be safe to say that B18 engine displacing 2000 cc's or less would probably never see 300 fwhp if it's N/A, at least not on pump gas. If somebody did accomplish such a feat, I would be truely amazed.

But there again, it's all about how reliable you want it to be, etc. Either way takes lots of tuning to get the most power and to make it the most reliable.

 

I dunno what to do either i'm kinda in your same situation. You just want a quick daily driver or whatever i'd go n/a but if you want a fast car. Without the driveability issues i would go turbo with low boost. It costs alot of money to get a car that can easily rev to 9k without problems and still make power. IMO just my 2 cents

 

Yea I guess your right on that Pat if you really look in to it. Now that you said all that I'm almost saying to myself, lets go turbo, lol. But me I don't could just because I do need a reliable car and not lookin to sell it within the month so I'll probably stay NA. On the other hand, if I didn't care about reliablilty and selling the car soon I would def. say have fun with the turbo, maybe sometime I'll do it, but not anytime soon.

 

Thanks everyone for you input so far! I think I will end up going NA, its really not a lot of money it really depends on what you want to run with! Any other coments
would be great though.