Ok 01 prelude with AEM ram air intake DC headers, Skunk 2 exhaust and am getting a skunk 2 intake manifold next week...

Would upgrading to a AEM cold air intake make much of a difference?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by donniebrasco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok 01 prelude with AEM ram air intake DC headers, Skunk 2 exhaust and am getting a skunk 2 intake manifold next week...

Would upgrading to a AEM cold air intake make much of a difference?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope. just do something to shield the filter element from the heat and you are golden. Jon used high heat insulation on his and it works great. or you can make a metal box to keep heat off of it.

but leaving it the way it is will in no way hurt you.

 

Wont a metal box conduct heat anyway, what about a carbon fiber casing.

 

how about bending a radiator in half and kinda cupping it? lol

Nah, a box will do fine, it is just not allowing your short ram to suck in the super hot air, just the cooler stuff.

 

thx man.

 

one of my friends has "cold" ram air intake. He has a hose picking up cold air from the front of the car and it brings it directly to the filter.

 

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Ummmm.... wouldn't that just be a CAI ?

 

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Ummmm.... wouldn't that just be a CAI ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he's saying it's a short ram.

He just routed up a hose to blow cool air by the filter

 

Guys seriously, the only advantage of a CAI over the short ram would be right off the line. Otherwise @ 10-20mph, you have what is normally referred to as air passing by the intake. Working off the same principles of an intercooler or radiator, air rushing by the short ram intake is going to be as cool as the air temps out side. The CAI intake will get no cooler than that would.

In addition there are always those crazy problems with hydrolock if you invest in a CAI.

 

btw donnie, if you havent done it, take off your pront licence plate mount, it allows your engine to get a TON more air. I know this sounds stupid, but if any prelude owners havent try it, it will lower your air temp gauge by about a tick and a half, and allow your short ram to get more air.

 

I was thinking of doing the exact same thing this past weekend. What I would want to do is buy a short ram intake, and fabricate a metal box around it to shield it from the heat, just as someone previously mentioned. However, I was wondering if any of you would know of a way to route some cold air from the front of the car into the metal box that I would make? I looked at my engine bay this past weekend and it seems very tight. I could only imagine being able to fit a very small tube in there. Do any of you have any ideas as to how this would be possible?

 

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I think he's saying it's a short ram.

He just routed up a hose to blow cool air by the filter </TD></TR></TABLE>

Correcto. With this setup get the throttle response of a short ram and the high end power of the cold air.

You can get the hose kit at autozone. Mount it right behind the grille under the turn signal (5th gen lude), and either remove the grille or cut two slits in it. Then bring it up to the short ram filter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkKnight[DMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]Guys seriously, the only advantage of a CAI over the short ram would be right off the line. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

The CAI is at a disadvantage off the line. Since the length of the CAI tube is longer, there is a greater distance the air has to travel to reach the engine. Therfore, you get some lag

 

off the line there is a small lag, but it accelerates quicker with a cai. tuning could have something to do with it, but i had my car tuned with the cai installed... i later took the extension off to make it a shortram and i felt a noticable loss in pickup.

 

since when do we have an air temp gauge..?

 

Interesing, have you guys actually tried both or not... I just switched my Iceman from a CAI to a SR and found the opposite!!! - Less power off the line but better in the high rev range. Going to try the air box route now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stRodda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">off the line there is a small lag....</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is only due to the fact that on paper, it should have a lag due to the increased volume of the piping. BUT you get the colder air charge, which makes for more overall torque.

I had a DC short ram on a while back, tested it out one very cool night on the highway, then swapped on the AEM CAI and the CAI was noticeably stronger throughout the powerband............but then again i have one from an Accord that sits the filter down about 2" above the bottom lip of the stock front bumper.

 

Hmmmm....

Have you ever heard of funneling the air from the ground to the ram? Is that going to work the same as cold air or better?

And I am going to build an aluminum casing around my filter to block the heat from the motor and try my best not to look ghetto.

 

Routing the air from behind the turn signal sounds like a good idea. I hope it can be done for a 4th gen. My only concern is that the air will not actually have enough force to push all the way up the tube in to the metal box. Which also brings me to another question. Should I make the tube that I route from under the turn signal go all the way and actually touch the filter cone at the end of the intake tube? Wouldn't that increase the length that the air would have to travel?

 

[QUOTE=Should I make the tube that I route from under the turn signal go all the way and actually touch the filter cone at the end of the intake tube? Wouldn't that increase the length that the air would have to travel? [/QUOTE]

No you shouldn't have to touch the air filter, anyway ruining the tube is not going to hurt it will only help. If you are worried about the pressure just put a fan in front of your car and feel if you are getting any air that way. I know it sounds stupid but if that works then your gold on that. Everybody loves the Mcgiver tricks.
+ im not too familiar with the 4th gen luds I have the 5th gen I plan on making the rigs this weekend so ill let you know if it helps out or not on Tues.

 

The fan sounds like a good idea. I will try and do it this weekend as well. I am only debating on whether I should get a cheap intake from ebay or if I should get an AEM. I'll probably get the cheap one since it's just a damn tube and it will save me a lot of money. I don't really believe in all that hype. A tube is a tube. I will keep you all posted on my progress.

 

why not kill 2 birds with one stone and get an AEM CIA cheep on ebay

 

The AEM is legal since it has the CARB sticker. EBAY doesn't. That's the difference between the tubes.

 

I live up in Canada and they are not very strict here with emissions. Is there an actual difference between an AEM short ram and a regular short ram? I wouldn't think there is.

 

stick with cold air intake, or opt. for one of those whale ***** intakes..they're cool too and the power gains are goood.