Need help.... can't decide on which clutch to get. I have a 98 ITR w/ JUN Type 3's. I am going to get the JUN UL Flywheel but can't decide on the clutch. It's my every day driving car, so I mean I don't want to get something that is an over kill and that only belongs on the tracks.

Another words I want something that can grab real well and be smooth at the same time, does these two clutches I am thinking about sute my needs? (Exedy Organic or ACT A14-HDSS) I was recommended the ACT for everyday driveing, but then again he was an ACT dealer so I don't know if he just wanted to make a sale or is he just being honest.

That is why I rather ask you guys here on Honda-tech.... a neutral opinion....

Thanks again


[Modified by azn98R, 12:20 PM 12/13/2001]

 

If you plan on eclipsing your stock redline, then you need to get the Exedy. ACT does not warrant their clutches to go about stock redline. We have had good luck since picking up the Exedy line and we have them on special now with both Spoon and Toda flywheels. Feel free to call us if you have more questions. Thanks.

 

I thought ACT had fixed their clutches so that they will not explode over 8000rpm?

Do problems still remain?

 

Just going by what they told me after talking with them. I thought that too, but apparently not.

 

The ACT WILL outlast the exedy, higher redline or not.

We spin our ACTs to 9500-10000rpm with no problems.

 

Steve, are you referring to the HDSS?

 

I also heard that they are rated only up to 8K, from a few different sources...but many people have had good luck w/ them, so that may tell you something

 

I'm running the ACT HD w/a hybrid disc to the Mugen computer's red line (once in a while).

 

I've spuin the HDSS to 8500 and know people who spin it to 10k . It holds up fine.

 

that's why your called crazy ed...

 

.....fyi: jun flywheel has to have the teeth ground down a little to work right. Otherwise you're gonna have problems with the starter.

is all I've heard of exedy from peeps...

 

It's a no brainer, exedy!!


cheapest of the bunch also.

 

True, depending on what starter you have. Toda does have the teeth ground. Curious why the Jun and not the Toda?

 

I actually have the ACT A14-HDss clutch with a Exedy cromaly flywheel in my GSR and its great for everyday driving and doesnt chatter at all, its also pretty smooth. I kinda miss the heavier pressure plate and 3 puck disc I once had though

 

i'm going to have to join dave, black r, and jack on this... i've also heard about the jun and the starters having starter issues. i have a toda that i'm about to put in and the quality is very nice. never heard of a toda having issues of any sort and yes the teeth are rounded on the toda and the spoon as well. i know two people one with a spoon and one with a toda, they love them! not trying to tell what to buy or not buy just offering my 2 cents.

 

I have run the A14-hdss in one of my hybrids for quite a while now and well above stock rpms for extended periods on roadcourses with no problems. I have also dragged with it pretty sucessfully...though it slips more than a 6 or 3 puck would of course....overall I have been very very happy with ACT products and never shredded one, and use them in all my projects.

-dave w

 

We use both the HD and X pressure plates.
I know that they had a problem with the full face disc coming apart, but that
has been remedied. Of course I dont use sprung discs either.

Odd that all of you LOVE exedy so much. Every single one I know of slips
and didnt last very long. My ACT is going on 4 years now and still grabs
as if it were new. Its the ony clutch I put in my cars.

 

never had a problem at all with my act hd disk, X pressure plate......

 

I'm wondering just what kinda starter problem will you encounter with the JUN flywheel? I've heard the same thing from many people and I was afraid that there would be problem before I installed the JUN flywheel on the Integra. But I didn't have the teeth ground, and it's working fine. So I'm just curious on what kinda problem would you see?

 

Sorry, but excuse my ignorance, but what does it mean when I would need the flywheel to be grounded out to start right? Does it mean it won't grip and I will keep stalling. I mean it is my every day car so I don't think I want to have the aggravation of my car constantly stalling. If that is the case I would rather go with Toda Lightweight Flywheel w/ toda street clutch. What about that combination?

But how are the performance compared in the two flywheels Toda & Jun UL (sorry a lil off the subject)

 

If you dont grind the teeth on the flywheel, then the starter cant engage properly.
This will cause it to grind and damage the flywheel.

 

toda and spoon have already done this during there manuf. process so all you have to do is install.

 

The EXEDY unit is DUCTILE IRON. All ACT, CM, CF, CN do is take a new stock plate and build up the clamp load. If you will look at the pressure plates, most use rivits. EXEDY uses straps. Also, I saw a burst test they had run on a pressure plate last year at NOPI. They spun a plate 16,000 rpms in a burst chamber,for like 60 minutes, with no damage done. If you are running one of the rebuilds, at high rpm. 1 word SHATTERSHIELD If you have the EXEDY no need to flinch at 8500 Peace!

 

ACT are ductile iron also.

And all honda clutches use STRAPS. most are riveted to the plate but some are
bolted.

Check your info....

 

WRONG!!!!! ACT offers a DUCTILE Pressure Plate at a MUCH HIGHER COST!!! But the A14-HDSS Pressure Plate is painted grey cast metal! You should check your facts my friend! I guess since a few of the cast plates blew up, they decided to start offering ductile iron. Check their new cat