Need new engine. Recommendations?
Friend of mine had his 91 Integra die last week.
199,300 miles on the original block.
Rather than a new car, thinking he might want to stay with this one, since he hates having a car payment.
Can anyone reccomend some resources or sites on what engine can fit in here and what available options there are?
Keep in mind this is a daily driver, not something that will be tracked, tuned, boosted etc. Low price, compatiablity and reliability are the priority here, not horsepower.
Thanks.
199,300 miles on the original block.
Rather than a new car, thinking he might want to stay with this one, since he hates having a car payment.
Can anyone reccomend some resources or sites on what engine can fit in here and what available options there are?
Keep in mind this is a daily driver, not something that will be tracked, tuned, boosted etc. Low price, compatiablity and reliability are the priority here, not horsepower.
Thanks.
if he just wants the car to be the same as before, you could find a B18A longblock for around $300 in the H-T classifieds.
Also, here is the engine swap guide from g2ic.com, lots of good info on what fits and how to do swaps into 90-93 Integras.
http://www.g2ic.com/tegtips/en...e.doc
If he decides to swap to a different engine (b16, b18b, etc) you might want to look at http://www.hmotorsonline.com. They are a good source for USDM and JDM Honda motors.
Also, here is the engine swap guide from g2ic.com, lots of good info on what fits and how to do swaps into 90-93 Integras.
http://www.g2ic.com/tegtips/en...e.doc
If he decides to swap to a different engine (b16, b18b, etc) you might want to look at http://www.hmotorsonline.com. They are a good source for USDM and JDM Honda motors.
looked up all the engines under 1K on that site
H23 lude
160hp 156 tq
$1000
B16A
170hp 113tq
160hp 111tq
$900
B18B 94-95 LS
145 hp 127 tq
$749
B20B
126 hp 133 tq
$749
B16A
160 hp 111tq
$599
DOHC ZC
129hp 106 tq
$525
D15B VTEC
130 hp
$435
SOHC ZC
120 hp 100 tq
$390
MOTOR TRANNY COMPUTER
B16A
160 hp 111tq
$1250
personally I'd say get the B16A for 600
u'll get performance increase + it won't take a huge bite out of ur wallet
H23 lude
160hp 156 tq
$1000
B16A
170hp 113tq
160hp 111tq
$900
B18B 94-95 LS
145 hp 127 tq
$749
B20B
126 hp 133 tq
$749
B16A
160 hp 111tq
$599
DOHC ZC
129hp 106 tq
$525
D15B VTEC
130 hp
$435
SOHC ZC
120 hp 100 tq
$390
MOTOR TRANNY COMPUTER
B16A
160 hp 111tq
$1250
personally I'd say get the B16A for 600
u'll get performance increase + it won't take a huge bite out of ur wallet
but for that b16 he'd need a better tranny. I think the LS tranny is too slow for a b16 but whatever, you can save up for a b16 tranny later on i guess. but with b16 you have to worry about emissions, im thinkin of just buyin a new b18a/b or somethin
if he wants a direct replacement the b18b is a drop in motor. using his distributor,injectors, and some sensors it will work 100%.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmotorsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if he wants a direct replacement the b18b is a drop in motor. using his distributor,injectors, and some sensors it will work 100%.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you do that will it pass smog for the same motor? cuz if so i think id do that for my car
if you do that will it pass smog for the same motor? cuz if so i think id do that for my car
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No, it wouldn't pass the visual test if the person knew what to look for. But I bet most places wouldn't care, since it still has b18 stamped on it. However, the b18b would definitely pass the BAR certification, as would a B18C.
Any motor that came out of a newer car, and was offered in a US model would be able to be certified by BAR. It just needs to have the same emissions equipment hooked up as the car it came out of - look up a thread by 'Luserkid' on BAR certification on engine swaps. He put a B18C1 in a Civic and never has to worry about failing smog due to a swap.
Any motor that came out of a newer car, and was offered in a US model would be able to be certified by BAR. It just needs to have the same emissions equipment hooked up as the car it came out of - look up a thread by 'Luserkid' on BAR certification on engine swaps. He put a B18C1 in a Civic and never has to worry about failing smog due to a swap.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr (Exospeed) »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, it wouldn't pass the visual test if the person knew what to look for. But I bet most places wouldn't care, since it still has b18 stamped on it. However, the b18b would definitely pass the BAR certification, as would a B18C.
Any motor that came out of a newer car, and was offered in a US model would be able to be certified by BAR. It just needs to have the same emissions equipment hooked up as the car it came out of - look up a thread by 'Luserkid' on BAR certification on engine swaps. He put a B18C1 in a Civic and never has to worry about failing smog due to a swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
cool because i think ill be needing a new motor soon, but i seen the b18b's are JDM would that matter if i still used parts off my old motor for the b18b?
Any motor that came out of a newer car, and was offered in a US model would be able to be certified by BAR. It just needs to have the same emissions equipment hooked up as the car it came out of - look up a thread by 'Luserkid' on BAR certification on engine swaps. He put a B18C1 in a Civic and never has to worry about failing smog due to a swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
cool because i think ill be needing a new motor soon, but i seen the b18b's are JDM would that matter if i still used parts off my old motor for the b18b?
If swapping to a JDM B18B you could use old parts from your B18A. You would probably have to, as you would need to maintain all of the emissions devices that would have been on 94-01 LS Integras. The idea is that you can pass a JDM motor through the BAR as long as you have all of the smog control components required for the car it would come from in the US.
hmotorsonline sells entire B18B (JDM or USDM) changeovers (incl hydro tranny) for $2200. So you could get a USDM one and have to worry less about the ecu and emissions stuff. If you got the JDM one, it would require more work to pass it.
Check out http://www.g2ic.com for the engine swap guide, and look at these links:
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/ref99.html
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=385337
Beeker16 - you don't have to worry about any of this crap, cuz you live in Texas. Consider yourself lucky!
hmotorsonline sells entire B18B (JDM or USDM) changeovers (incl hydro tranny) for $2200. So you could get a USDM one and have to worry less about the ecu and emissions stuff. If you got the JDM one, it would require more work to pass it.
Check out http://www.g2ic.com for the engine swap guide, and look at these links:
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/ref99.html
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=385337
Beeker16 - you don't have to worry about any of this crap, cuz you live in Texas. Consider yourself lucky!
jdm and usdm b18b1 are identical outside. they just use different cams and slightly different intake manifolds.
you would want to use your dizzy, injectors, ecu and sensors. everything else you can use. as long as the engine is newer then your car its ok. the emmisions systems on the newer engines work better then the old b18a1's. my swap passed emmisions here in ct just fine. i used the newer intake manifold and throttle body too. i just extended the wire for the map because its now located on the t.b. instead of the firewall. and my engine is worked over, so a stock engine would pass emmisions real easy.
you would want to use your dizzy, injectors, ecu and sensors. everything else you can use. as long as the engine is newer then your car its ok. the emmisions systems on the newer engines work better then the old b18a1's. my swap passed emmisions here in ct just fine. i used the newer intake manifold and throttle body too. i just extended the wire for the map because its now located on the t.b. instead of the firewall. and my engine is worked over, so a stock engine would pass emmisions real easy.
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