ok since if u block off the egr sendin harmful gases into the im and it cuts the heat a lil i think. wouldt it be better to block it at the point where the exhaust leads into the condiut to the im cause im thinkin that hot exhaust still heats up the im a lot and that would improve performance a lot if that could be stopped any thoughts? and where does it enter the condiut to the im at any way thanks in advance

 

Egr actually warms your engine up when it's cold and cools it off for emmissions purposes when it is hot. So When your engine is hot, the egr is no hotter. All I would do is install an egr blockoff plate or you can use any old piece of metal with two holes and a piece of aluminum can for gasket. Then remove your whole egr valve/lift sensor assembly. Once you have done this you can also remove your egr regulator near your power steering reservoir. I personally don't think you will gain any power from this unless you are turbo. It is actually good for your naturally aspirated motor to have egr to prevent detonation (which is one of the leading causes of prelude engine failure).

Travis

93' turbo lood 20psi

 

[QUOTE= I personally don't think you will gain any power from this unless you are turbo. It is actually good for your naturally aspirated motor to have egr to prevent detonation (which is one of the leading causes of prelude engine failure).

Travis

93' turbo lood 20psi[/QUOTE]

Since when has an egr, or the lack there of killed a motor?????

 

how does the egr cool down the engine i though it took recirculated air from the exhaust that is hot and throw it in the engine ?

 

EGR reduces emissions by recirulation the gases, it has nothing to do with heating up the engine quicker... Shiftyperformance is talking out of his ***.

 

I concur... the EGR doesn't aid in performance at all. It is purely an emissions control device. Your engine benefits from blocking the EGR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by red92si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I concur... the EGR doesn't aid in performance at all. It is purely an emissions control device. Your engine benefits from blocking the EGR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

THANK YOU! My god I almost shat myself when I read that crap

 

shiftyperformance obviously has no idea what he is talking about.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by red92si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shiftyperformance obviously has no idea what he is talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because YOU ******** don't know what he's talking about doesn't mean HE doesn't know what he's talking about. This is a direct quote from my American Honda Motor Company Fuel and Emissions resource guide(read my sig ladies!!)

"...The exaust gas reduces the temperature of combustion because the exaust gas is low in oxygen,slowing combustion,and reducing combustion temperature."

Also there's this .."An inoperative EGR not allowing the exhaust gas to recirculate in the fresh intake charge can cause NOx. When an engine pings(detonates) it creates NOx. So as a rule correct the ping and you will correct the NOx."

 

Exhaust gas present in the combustion chamber may lower combustion temperatures, but what we are trying to say is that exhaust gas, when routed into the intake manifold increases the temperature of the intake charge.

Are you trying to say that the engine makes more power and runs better with the EGR unblocked and funtioning? If so, I feel bad for you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shiftyperformance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Egr actually warms your engine up when it's cold</TD></TR></TABLE>

No let me correct you sir. you EGR does NOT engage when the car is below operating temperature.

 

the egr actually only engages while the car is moving....therefore in nj we have the emsiions test which requires 95 and older vehicles to be dynoed at 15 mph so that if the egr is werking properly, will engauge, and noX will pass the emissions....its mostly emssions....no biggie

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

"...The exaust gas reduces the temperature of combustion because the exaust gas is low in oxygen,slowing combustion,and reducing combustion temperature."

Also there's this .."An inoperative EGR not allowing the exhaust gas to recirculate in the fresh intake charge can cause NOx. When an engine pings(detonates) it creates NOx. So as a rule correct the ping and you will correct the NOx."
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yeah but if you know anything about motors and pull that stupid *** **** off and tune the car for the compensation you are making the air/fuel burn cleaner

Why do you think some hondas dont even have one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shiftyperformance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...cools it off for emmissions purposes when it is hot. So When your engine is hot, the egr is no hotter. All I would do is install an egr blockoff plate or you can use any old piece of metal with two holes and a piece of aluminum can for gasket. Then remove your whole egr valve/lift sensor assembly. Once you have done this you can also remove your egr regulator near your power steering reservoir. I personally don't think you will gain any power from this unless you are turbo. It is actually good for your naturally aspirated motor to have egr to prevent detonation (which is one of the leading causes of prelude engine failure).

cb7-R:

This is what he said and except for the part about the EGR warming up your car he was right about all the rest of this. BUT you all said he was full of it, but you were wrong,and that was my point.
93' turbo lood 20psi</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shiftyperformance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Egr actually warms your engine up when it's cold and cools it off for emmissions purposes when it is hot. So When your engine is hot, the egr is no hotter. All I would do is install an egr blockoff plate or you can use any old piece of metal with two holes and a piece of aluminum can for gasket. Then remove your whole egr valve/lift sensor assembly. Once you have done this you can also remove your egr regulator near your power steering reservoir. I </TD></TR></TABLE>

Or you couold just get a hondata IM gasket and call it good