can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny?
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can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny?
i been driving auto all my life...now switched to Manual, yeah one more person know how to drive manual dont you glad about it?
anyway...can i use motor synthetic oil in my tranny b18c1 year 97? or have to use MTF....
if yes or not what oil would you recommend...i dont like Honda genuine MTF or ATF...so....
anyway...can i use motor synthetic oil in my tranny b18c1 year 97? or have to use MTF....
if yes or not what oil would you recommend...i dont like Honda genuine MTF or ATF...so....
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
I tried the Mobil in my tranny, '98 GSR, and it seemed fine. No grinds or anything bad. Switched to MTF and it's pretty much the same. I'll try Syncromesh next.
Try it and if it doesn't work for you just drain and refill with something else.
Try it and if it doesn't work for you just drain and refill with something else.
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (builthatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no syn!
MTF is the best choice for your trans, like it or not ; )</TD></TR></TABLE>
why not syn....can i use motor oil though?
can i use motor oil or i have to use transmiision fluid oil....
MTF is the best choice for your trans, like it or not ; )</TD></TR></TABLE>
why not syn....can i use motor oil though?
can i use motor oil or i have to use transmiision fluid oil....
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
Honda mtf has special additives that cushion "shocked" parts of your trans as well as other additives, friction modifiers and such that standard mineral based non syn motor oils don't have...the motor oil will work, in fact i believe for several years Honda recommended such, however, they later recommended MTF for all manual trannies.
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why not syn....can i use motor oil though?
can i use motor oil or i have to use transmiision fluid oil....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Different viscousity & break-down periods and the gears won't like it over time. For the same price or less, just get Honda MTL or some sort of MTL that is designed for tranny gears. But if you think you'll get more power or whatever out of it (which you won't), then go for it but syn oil, especially, is not designed to go into a transmission.
why not syn....can i use motor oil though?
can i use motor oil or i have to use transmiision fluid oil....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Different viscousity & break-down periods and the gears won't like it over time. For the same price or less, just get Honda MTL or some sort of MTL that is designed for tranny gears. But if you think you'll get more power or whatever out of it (which you won't), then go for it but syn oil, especially, is not designed to go into a transmission.
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (builthatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by builthatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda mtf has special additives that cushion "shocked" parts of your trans as well as other additives, friction modifiers and such that standard mineral based non syn motor oils don't have...the motor oil will work, in fact i believe for several years Honda recommended such, however, they later recommended MTF for all manual trannies.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmm interesting......i know lot of people recommend Honda genuine MTF, since i've never experience with them...
but one thing i would like to have is smoother shifting from my gears...now excluding motor oil...i do not want anything happen to my tranny at any cost or risk it...
also lot of people like the shift' feeling of GM syncromessh MTF have you knowledge anything about this GM or anyone
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Different viscousity & break-down periods and the gears won't like it over time. For the same price or less, just get Honda MTL or some sort of MTL that is designed for tranny gears. But if you think you'll get more power or whatever out of it (which you won't), then go for it but syn oil, especially, is not designed to go into a transmission.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh no...get more power or watever is not what im looking for....smoother shifting would be my 1st priority know any good one
hmm interesting......i know lot of people recommend Honda genuine MTF, since i've never experience with them...
but one thing i would like to have is smoother shifting from my gears...now excluding motor oil...i do not want anything happen to my tranny at any cost or risk it...
also lot of people like the shift' feeling of GM syncromessh MTF have you knowledge anything about this GM or anyone
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Different viscousity & break-down periods and the gears won't like it over time. For the same price or less, just get Honda MTL or some sort of MTL that is designed for tranny gears. But if you think you'll get more power or whatever out of it (which you won't), then go for it but syn oil, especially, is not designed to go into a transmission.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh no...get more power or watever is not what im looking for....smoother shifting would be my 1st priority know any good one
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
if you tranny is stock spec, with stock clearances, you should run honda mtf. I also, on older trans, run lucas oil stabilizer with the mtf....
Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hmm interesting......i know lot of people recommend Honda genuine MTF, since i've never experience with them...
but one thing i would like to have is smoother shifting from my gears...now excluding motor oil...i do not want anything happen to my tranny at any cost or risk it...
also lot of people like the shift' feeling of GM syncromessh MTF have you knowledge anything about this GM or anyone
oh no...get more power or watever is not what im looking for....smoother shifting would be my 1st priority know any good one</TD></TR></TABLE>I highly recomend GM synchromesh fluid. A friend of mine had a nasty 3dr gear grind, so he drained the motor oil that was in there and added gm fluid, the tranny was butter 1st-5th
im going to be using this in my tranny next time the tranny fluid change comes around
hmm interesting......i know lot of people recommend Honda genuine MTF, since i've never experience with them...
but one thing i would like to have is smoother shifting from my gears...now excluding motor oil...i do not want anything happen to my tranny at any cost or risk it...
also lot of people like the shift' feeling of GM syncromessh MTF have you knowledge anything about this GM or anyone
oh no...get more power or watever is not what im looking for....smoother shifting would be my 1st priority know any good one</TD></TR></TABLE>I highly recomend GM synchromesh fluid. A friend of mine had a nasty 3dr gear grind, so he drained the motor oil that was in there and added gm fluid, the tranny was butter 1st-5th
im going to be using this in my tranny next time the tranny fluid change comes around
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (ken-E)
honda mtf all the way!!! 
i was dumb back in the day and listened to others and they suggested regular oil, so i used it ... well, 1 month later i was replacing trannies cause every single gear was grinding!!! ill never use motor oil again! lesson learned! (at least for me).
i was dumb back in the day and listened to others and they suggested regular oil, so i used it ... well, 1 month later i was replacing trannies cause every single gear was grinding!!! ill never use motor oil again! lesson learned! (at least for me).
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (jdm_ef9)
When i did my first swap i went to the honda dealer tog et some MTF. Well they didnt have any but a tech told me taht they always use 5w-30 in their trannies. I used it and its worked fine for me for over 2 years now...ive changed the fluid 3 times though. I like to change the tranny fluid atLEAST once a year...but tahts just me. Ive also seen some good things from GM syncromesh.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortlid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like puting syn. in my gear boxes. Anyone tried using Redline MTL or MT-90 the web site actualy says Honda and Acura tranaxles on it!! 
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i used the redline shockproof gear oil. It's tranny oil specifically designed for LSD trannies that take a lot of abuse, ie. racing. I see a lot of the SWC teams use it and it coats everything!! Haven't had any issues with it yet.
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</TD></TR></TABLE>i used the redline shockproof gear oil. It's tranny oil specifically designed for LSD trannies that take a lot of abuse, ie. racing. I see a lot of the SWC teams use it and it coats everything!! Haven't had any issues with it yet.
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That stuff (shockproof) is great IF you are racing, running boost, etc. but this is for my girlfriends stock '99 EX so I want gear and syncro protection, MPG and low temp flow. I live in Nashua, NH it gets wicked cold up here!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortlid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That stuff (shockproof) is great IF you are racing, running boost, etc. but this is for my girlfriends stock '99 EX so I want gear and syncro protection, MPG and low temp flow. I live in Nashua, NH it gets wicked cold up here! </TD></TR></TABLE>
it's fine for daily driving. but is made to handle the abuse of racing. And just because that's what it's designed for doesn't mean that it's not good for daily driving, it's the opposite. It makes it BETTER for the task because it's meant for abuse. The outside air temp in NH isn't going to affect it any differently than any other tranny fluid. They make lightweight (equivalent to a 10w-30 flow) and super lightweight. I'm sure either of those would do fine. It's definitely much better than using mobil 1, that's for sure.
But hey, what do I know.
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</TD></TR></TABLE>it's fine for daily driving. but is made to handle the abuse of racing. And just because that's what it's designed for doesn't mean that it's not good for daily driving, it's the opposite. It makes it BETTER for the task because it's meant for abuse. The outside air temp in NH isn't going to affect it any differently than any other tranny fluid. They make lightweight (equivalent to a 10w-30 flow) and super lightweight. I'm sure either of those would do fine. It's definitely much better than using mobil 1, that's for sure.
But hey, what do I know.
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Not question you vetrans THATS FOR SURE that is why I asked why most only liked HONDA MTF or GM's Syncromesh?? I just think that thick fluid draging on the gears is going to hurt her MPG?? 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortlid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I just think that thick fluid draging on the gears is going to hurt her MPG?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
you didn't read my post or the redline swebsite. It's not thick fluid. The lightweight version has the same flow characteristics as 10w-30, and the super lightweight is obviously thinner. When people design tranny fluid I'm sure protecting the gears is foremost. I highly doubt a different tranny fluid will hurt mpg.
If you find a tranny fluid that increases MPG, lemme know. And if that's the case I've got some bridges in Arizona to sell too.
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</TD></TR></TABLE>you didn't read my post or the redline swebsite. It's not thick fluid. The lightweight version has the same flow characteristics as 10w-30, and the super lightweight is obviously thinner. When people design tranny fluid I'm sure protecting the gears is foremost. I highly doubt a different tranny fluid will hurt mpg.
If you find a tranny fluid that increases MPG, lemme know. And if that's the case I've got some bridges in Arizona to sell too.
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Re: Redline MTL (stevel)
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you didn't read my post or the redline swebsite. It's not thick fluid. The lightweight version has the same flow characteristics as 10w-30, and the super lightweight is obviously thinner. When people design tranny fluid I'm sure protecting the gears is foremost. I highly doubt a different tranny fluid will hurt mpg.
If you find a tranny fluid that increases MPG, lemme know. And if that's the case I've got some bridges in Arizona to sell too.
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i know tranny oil can decrease whp; my ex-gf's sr20 SER lost up to 2 whp at certain points from JUST switching to a heavy weight gear oil...vs. whatever was in there stock...
you didn't read my post or the redline swebsite. It's not thick fluid. The lightweight version has the same flow characteristics as 10w-30, and the super lightweight is obviously thinner. When people design tranny fluid I'm sure protecting the gears is foremost. I highly doubt a different tranny fluid will hurt mpg.
If you find a tranny fluid that increases MPG, lemme know. And if that's the case I've got some bridges in Arizona to sell too.
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i know tranny oil can decrease whp; my ex-gf's sr20 SER lost up to 2 whp at certain points from JUST switching to a heavy weight gear oil...vs. whatever was in there stock...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you find a tranny fluid that increases MPG, lemme know. And if that's the case I've got some bridges in Arizona to sell too.
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Dude...are there really no bridges in Arizona? How do you get over rivers and ****? Im calling BS
If you find a tranny fluid that increases MPG, lemme know. And if that's the case I've got some bridges in Arizona to sell too.
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Dude...are there really no bridges in Arizona? How do you get over rivers and ****? Im calling BS
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Builthatch, has seen it also. I had a '93 Toyota Corrola DX with 60k on the clock had regular dino juice 75W-90 GL-5 Gearlube in the tranny like the manual said. I would get terible shifting if the temp outside was less than 20 degree for about3 miles till the tranny warmed up. The MPG on my way to work 20 miles was worse the lowwer the temp went. I swaped the dino juice out for Redline 75W-90 GL-5 full synthetic gearlube. Same low temps no shifting prblems, shifted same cold or hot. and got the same MPG warm or hot. That converted me!
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
My mechanic put some 20w-50 in my tranny and made the gears grind everytime I start off in the cold morning. It never did that before. I went back to Honda MTF. The oil has the right friction to help the synchrons. It never grind again.
Don't listen to other people bullshit. Yeh, you can run different motor oils in your transmission. It does not mean that they are design for your transmission. There is a reason car companies engineered their transmission fluid to work with there transmissions. Smoother shifting at lower temperatures and at higher temperatures. Don't listen to some backyard mechanic that has no master degree in automotive engineering or fluid dynamics. The Honda Service Manual says transmission fluid, not motor oil.
Modified by Dai_Ca_Vietnam_H22a4 at 12:29 AM 1/15/2005
Modified by Dai_Ca_Vietnam_H22a4 at 12:31 AM 1/15/2005
Don't listen to other people bullshit. Yeh, you can run different motor oils in your transmission. It does not mean that they are design for your transmission. There is a reason car companies engineered their transmission fluid to work with there transmissions. Smoother shifting at lower temperatures and at higher temperatures. Don't listen to some backyard mechanic that has no master degree in automotive engineering or fluid dynamics. The Honda Service Manual says transmission fluid, not motor oil.
Modified by Dai_Ca_Vietnam_H22a4 at 12:29 AM 1/15/2005
Modified by Dai_Ca_Vietnam_H22a4 at 12:31 AM 1/15/2005
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Re: can i use motor syn oil 10-30 for tranny? (yeegsr)
yes u can run regular oil 10w30 my friends and i all use that and we have a couple 550+ WHP civics to and never have had any problems yes MTF is best but the reg oil does work and works fine
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