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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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You guys know the one I"m talking about right?? The one that has something to do with the butterflies. Well there is a little hose coming off of that box and goes up and connects to the back of the manifold,Well during my swap The little nipple on the black box broke off so now I cannot run a hose from it to the mani. I was getting erratic idle because of the open vacum source in the mani so I plugged it up for now. But how will this effect my butterfly operation or performance??
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Don't worry about it. I leave my butterfly open the entire time, give a little more mid range torque.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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with it plugged up your intak manifold will only be using two ( i think) of the four runners to suck in air. once your car hits 4400 rpm then the vaccuum decreases releasing the throttle body like clip in the sid of the intake manifold on the drivers side, casuing all four to open up.
without it you will notice the loss of low end torque. Many people don't have it hooked up right/ don't have it at all... as long as you cap the leak it should be a prob. without it.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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If you want your butterflies to operate like stock you can use a fitting to jimmy rig the hose back onto the box I've done it before and it worked fine. I have a spare box too if you need one.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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how do u leave the butterflys open all the time?
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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You can pull the plug out of the valve. Just crawl under the car and you will notice that under the manifold.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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No need to crawl under the car. Just unplug the vacuum hose from the butterfly valve. And cap off the other end. Or just cap off directly from the intake manifold.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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You dont even need the box, just plug the vacuum lines directly into the solenoid.....I have experimented with it a little bit, and found that if it functions properly, you will have a lot more low-end power......
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