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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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on c-peeds site in the CR tool its shows a 1 layer. is that with the oem gasket? ive never heard ppl using 1 layer with it. just 2. not sure that would be a wise thing to do.
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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We have been using a single layer for years. It works great!
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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do you guys resurface the head or copper spray the 1 layer head gasket before install and how long does it last or seal and how much do you torque the 1 layer ???
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Default Re: 1 layer head gasket? (eg6cusco10pt)

Bump. having a hard time finding info on this.

Im wanting to use the top layer of an oem threee layer gasket, on an h22.

I might just take out the center and use it as a 2 layer. anyone have any info on this?

i cannot even find a place to buy a 1 layer HG for h22s.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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what layer is the best to use and how long does it last?
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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so far ive found out that with the use of copper spray and using the top layer, and tq to 80lbs, with arp. should be good for a few years.
just talked to a guy that has had his gsr 1 layer for over three yreas now, no problems.

im gonna try it, so i hope it all goes well
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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wow....crazy bumpage there...let me know how that goes for you...im thinking of using a 2 layer one on my build..
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Very good question's eg6cusco10pt. Im woundering the same thing.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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would also like to know more b/c this is a cheap way to raise cr
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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bumpage from mes too!
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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In for how can i do it,
pics will be very helpfull.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6cusco10pt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you guys resurface the head or copper spray the 1 layer head gasket before install and how long does it last or seal and how much do you torque the 1 layer ???</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FueLeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very good question's eg6cusco10pt. Im woundering the same thing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The ppl i have been asking didnt resurface the head. They just cleaned it, SOS or somthing. @ 75-80 lb of tq, they've been lasting.
Some of them even reused there own head gasket, just removing bottom two layers. but all of them said that they would only use ARP studs. And always used copper spray, about 3 coats of spray.
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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So what does the copper spary do exactly? does it seal the the head and block better? so by doing this would you ever need to replace your headgasket?
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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from what i understand ur suppossed the use the middle layer...

all copper spray does is provide a crushable coating for the gasket allowing it to seal better...

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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i understand ur suppossed the use the middle layer...

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one guy stated that the middle layer was a softer material. ??? looks like steel to me though. that was hear on HT though.

i have'nt heard of aanyone using the middle layer yet.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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NO, you cannot remove more than one layer from your oem honda head gasket. each of the outside area of the two outter layers have a black coating (sealant) on them, so to have bare metal to bare metal on a head gasket would be insane. the only layer you can take out is the middle layer because the other two have sealing coating on them.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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i dont understand why anyone would even want to do this. what is the purpose, if you dont mind me asking?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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...higher compression..?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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Default Re: 1 layer head gasket?

i did this on my h22 about a year ago i took the middle layer of the head gaskit an used copper spray i have been wanting to try a 1 layer but i dont feel like pulling my head off i say go for it
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Default Re: 1 layer head gasket?

I used to drive my ls vtec everyday around 80 miles with just the middle gasket i just sprayed with copper spray and never had any problems
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Default Re: 1 layer head gasket?

and how much power/torque do you think you stand to get with bump in compression?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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um its alot cheaper, and more reliable to just have your head milled down a tad.... ive seen one layers last for a while, and i've seen them leak on start up... so spend the $40 to mill your head rather than wasting precious natural resources and your $ to keep buying head gaskets!
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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or you could do it the proper way. save your money, wait to have the motor rebuilt with higher compression pistons, and not have to worry about a thing.

its the cheap shortcuts that ruin hondas.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by anothersickhatch
or you could do it the proper way. save your money, wait to have the motor rebuilt with higher compression pistons, and not have to worry about a thing.

its the cheap shortcuts that ruin hondas.
was it a cheap shortcut that threw your rod threw the sleave ???
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