How do you know if car is going to look like a boat with lowering springs ex. eibach prokit... *sear
Im trying to find out if my accord is going to look like a boat or not once I lower it. Just by looking at the car alone the front does look higher than the rear. With the eibach pro-kit it lowers it 1.3" front and rear meaning that the front is still going to be higher than the rear. Is there any way I coould fic that with those springs or would I have to go towards something more like the h+r sport srpings that lower it more in the front than the rear to even it out. What do you guys think?
But the sportline still have the same drop in the front as in the rear so how would the "boat look" be counteracted?
But the sportline still have the same drop in the front as in the rear so how would the "boat look" be counteracted?
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It's sort of a guessing game. I have neuspeed sports and before the drop, my car looked level. The springs dropped 1.7 in the front, 1.5 in the rear. I thought it would come out with that "boat look" but it instead came out almost exactly the same. best thing to do is find someone with these springs and look at his ride.
Yea, lol i never thought of that, i just read the Guide to Accords and never read about the "boat-look" for sportline, but your right. Sorry.
you also have to take into account the heavy *** engine in the front of your car (as opposed to the nothing in the rear)...im pretty sure thats why the drops are what they are....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TxTuner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's sort of a guessing game. I have neuspeed sports and before the drop, my car looked level. The springs dropped 1.7 in the front, 1.5 in the rear. I thought it would come out with that "boat look" but it instead came out almost exactly the same. best thing to do is find someone with these springs and look at his ride.
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with the springs only, it'll look even. when i installed the koni yellow shocks, the rear was lower. so i went and put the fronts on the upper perch and now its very even.
</TD></TR></TABLE>with the springs only, it'll look even. when i installed the koni yellow shocks, the rear was lower. so i went and put the fronts on the upper perch and now its very even.
the boat look happens because of the fact the boat look makes your car even, look at an accord with stovk springs...does the rear look lower than the front? yeah... its normal, its something eibach knew about, its totally normal. the"boat look" makes for a perfect drop.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FatJoe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the boat look happens because of the fact the boat look makes your car even, look at an accord with stovk springs...does the rear look lower than the front? yeah... its normal, its something eibach knew about, its totally normal. the"boat look" makes for a perfect drop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What I dont get is how its being lowered the same in the front as in the rear so how do you know if your car is going to look like a boat or not. With the h+r springs theres a difference between the front and rear so it will even out...
What I dont get is how its being lowered the same in the front as in the rear so how do you know if your car is going to look like a boat or not. With the h+r springs theres a difference between the front and rear so it will even out...
you can offset the look by getting a bigger rim in the rear, i know a few people that this has happened to and you know what, drop a 19 incher in the back, and have an 18 incher in the front, voila, the boat look is gone.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Confuc1ous »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can offset the look by getting a bigger rim in the rear, i know a few people that this has happened to and you know what, drop a 19 incher in the back, and have an 18 incher in the front, voila, the boat look is gone.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In that case Ill just buy h+r race springs and get kyb adjustable shocks. I think having two different size wheels will do more harm than good let alone the extra cost........ My point was trying to buy just the springs and not the shocks to save myself some money but I guess it doesnt work that way......
In that case Ill just buy h+r race springs and get kyb adjustable shocks. I think having two different size wheels will do more harm than good let alone the extra cost........ My point was trying to buy just the springs and not the shocks to save myself some money but I guess it doesnt work that way......
If you install springs with the same lowering height for the front and back, you'll have the same relative gap in the front and the back. That means that the front gap is still going to be bigger than the rear gap, therefore, making your car looks like it's sitting higher in the front than the rear when it's actually level. The front fender well gap is just bigger than the rear. If you want to make the gap even in the front and the rear, get the H&R, neuspeed, or whatever else out there that lowers the car more in the front than the rear.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twkdCD595 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just installed a fresh set of eibachs. no boat look.
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Were they pro-kit or sportsline?
Modified by twkdCD595 at 2:57 PM 9/27/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
Were they pro-kit or sportsline?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedH23Accord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the Eibach Sportline sping and no boats here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly....the rear is actually a bit higher now than the front, if i remember right...(i think front is 2 fingers, rear is 2.5.....) but the car looks pretty even it terms of ground clearance....to me, drops < 1.7" arent worth it....it just doesnt look that much better, and the springs usually have a less aggressive spring rate
exactly....the rear is actually a bit higher now than the front, if i remember right...(i think front is 2 fingers, rear is 2.5.....) but the car looks pretty even it terms of ground clearance....to me, drops < 1.7" arent worth it....it just doesnt look that much better, and the springs usually have a less aggressive spring rate
I prefer the prokits and other springs that lower the car the same all arround. I had tokico blues with eibach prokits and they looked like the back sat a little lower but it was infact level.
I liked the prokits for a couple other reasons as well. One, they didn't drop the car too far. I wasn't srapping on everything and it was just enough of a drop for my taste. Two, the springs are progressive. They had a nice ride for daily driving, I wasn't autocrossing or tracking the car so I had no need for stiff linear springs.
I liked the prokits for a couple other reasons as well. One, they didn't drop the car too far. I wasn't srapping on everything and it was just enough of a drop for my taste. Two, the springs are progressive. They had a nice ride for daily driving, I wasn't autocrossing or tracking the car so I had no need for stiff linear springs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STARRMAN85 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does my car look like a boat? H&R sport springs on KYB Gr-2 shocks
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No it does not. It looks just fine. You guys still dont get my point. The springs you have differ between the front and rear therfore causing the car to look level. The eibach pro-kit springs and *not* any other kind of spring do not differ in the front and rear therefore causing it to still have that stock look except lower. Get what I mean?????
</TD></TR></TABLE>No it does not. It looks just fine. You guys still dont get my point. The springs you have differ between the front and rear therfore causing the car to look level. The eibach pro-kit springs and *not* any other kind of spring do not differ in the front and rear therefore causing it to still have that stock look except lower. Get what I mean?????
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The eibach pro-kit springs and *not* any other kind of spring do not differ in the front and rear therefore causing it to still have that stock look except lower. Get what I mean?????</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know if it's just me but I read that like 5 times and it still confuses me.
Some spring kits drop all corners the same giving a stock look just lower and some spring kits lower the front a little more than the rear to "even the look" of the car out. I hope this is what you were looking for, if not please disreguard.
The eibach pro-kit springs and *not* any other kind of spring do not differ in the front and rear therefore causing it to still have that stock look except lower. Get what I mean?????</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know if it's just me but I read that like 5 times and it still confuses me.
Some spring kits drop all corners the same giving a stock look just lower and some spring kits lower the front a little more than the rear to "even the look" of the car out. I hope this is what you were looking for, if not please disreguard.
most springs labeled as "sport" or "race" will have the same drop front and rear.....other springs will try to keep the car level, and thus keep the wheel gaps exactly proportional to the stock setting
1. Eibach prokits give you the boat look unless you use Koni yellows and use the koni's lower perch setting.
2. Eibach prokits, did not drop much, looked like OEM especially with 17" rims on.
3. when you say "No it does not. It looks just fine. You guys still dont get my point. The springs you have differ between the front and rear therfore causing the car to look level. The eibach pro-kit springs and *not* any other kind of spring do not differ in the front and rear therefore causing it to still have that stock look except lower. Get what I mean?????"
Are you saying eibach prokits use the same springs for the front and rear, therefore causing the OEM "boat"look? FYI eibach prokits do have different springs for the front and rear. the front is a linear design "coils of same spacing" and the rear is a progressive design "coils of different spacing" and the rear's are much longer.
2. Eibach prokits, did not drop much, looked like OEM especially with 17" rims on.
3. when you say "No it does not. It looks just fine. You guys still dont get my point. The springs you have differ between the front and rear therfore causing the car to look level. The eibach pro-kit springs and *not* any other kind of spring do not differ in the front and rear therefore causing it to still have that stock look except lower. Get what I mean?????"
Are you saying eibach prokits use the same springs for the front and rear, therefore causing the OEM "boat"look? FYI eibach prokits do have different springs for the front and rear. the front is a linear design "coils of same spacing" and the rear is a progressive design "coils of different spacing" and the rear's are much longer.



