exospeed sleeved blocks vs. dart sleeved blocks
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i noticed that the dart blocks are a solid deck while the exospeed ones dont seem to be, would the exospeed still be good enough to hold 20 psi?
Depending on the internals i would say it should def. support 20psi on most common turbos...i would make sure whoever installs them knows what they are doing and have a good track record..from what i have learned the sleeves are proven but the installers arent always as good.. dart blocks are just bad *** im not sure about every aspect but they are engineered to be raced and that tells you alot
oh and i think most sleeves are open deck because of sleeve distortion problems...but dont quote me
oh and i think most sleeves are open deck because of sleeve distortion problems...but dont quote me
Either one easily. I don;t know who Exospeed is using to sleeve blocks anymore, or if they have a deal with the new owners of RS Machine. Pretty much any sleeved block will be good as long as the install was done properly. Good luck.
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ok well thanks guys, yeah i plan on making an 11 second d series to beat my brothers 12 so a sleeved block is definitly needed, and my brother would be doing all the installing but i would buy the block sleeved
Wil @ exospeed told me that there sleeved blocks can handle 40lbs-o- boost...
Although im sure tha dart ones can handle about tha same too...
I knwo tha guy from benson sleeving told me he could build me a d16 botom end that could handle 1000 crank hp
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so there u go...
Although im sure tha dart ones can handle about tha same too...
I knwo tha guy from benson sleeving told me he could build me a d16 botom end that could handle 1000 crank hp
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so there u go...
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If you are building a SOHC motor definately get in touch with turbodcx on here Brian, and also Howard form AR Fabrications, they have built a MONSTER of a SOHC! I will let him pot his newest #s if he wants. Just SICK though!
If you are building a SOHC motor definately get in touch with turbodcx on here Brian, and also Howard form AR Fabrications, they have built a MONSTER of a SOHC! I will let him pot his newest #s if he wants. Just SICK though!
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So far, the most we've seen through one of our blocks is 45 psi and 900+ HP. It will handle more. Ours is a dedicated casting, not a sleeved factory block. It is made to be a closed deck block from the start. It is also stronger through the main bearing area, and has enlarged water jackets.
That's probally why the person said 40 psi, cuz he knew it meant nothing in terms of hp numbers, but would appeal to the customer.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can sleeve your D series motors. Definetly one of if not the best service out there. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ill be getting a hold of you REAL SOON :D
ill be getting a hold of you REAL SOON :D
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Moxie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So far, the most we've seen through one of our blocks is 45 psi and 900+ HP. It will handle more. Ours is a dedicated casting, not a sleeved factory block. It is made to be a closed deck block from the start. It is also stronger through the main bearing area, and has enlarged water jackets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And I've also never seen anyone break the block on a sleeved stock motor, so why should I shell out another 800-900 bucks for a dart block?
And I've also never seen anyone break the block on a sleeved stock motor, so why should I shell out another 800-900 bucks for a dart block?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Either one easily. I don;t know who Exospeed is using to sleeve blocks anymore, or if they have a deal with the new owners of RS Machine. Pretty much any sleeved block will be good as long as the install was done properly. Good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i wouldnt say any sleeve...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=870704
i wouldnt say any sleeve...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=870704
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what are your prices, what kinda sleeves, references ?
platinum.
what are your prices, what kinda sleeves, references ?
platinum.
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If you are building a SOHC motor definately get in touch with turbodcx on here Brian, and also Howard form AR Fabrications, they have built a MONSTER of a SOHC! I will let him pot his newest #s if he wants. Just SICK though!</TD></TR></TABLE>
YUP.....lol
Brians is now over 475whp!
Ours is still at 407whp...but on stock sleeves and no block guard....
BTW if your looking for a sleeve D block we have one in stock....
As far as the DART blocks...they are a whole different animal....Im sure some rumors about my recent dyno tuning and track rumors are floating around somewhere....
PS Brians recent runs with the D posted some sick MPH at 133+....this is with a 2.6 60 and no second gear shift!
Howard
If you are building a SOHC motor definately get in touch with turbodcx on here Brian, and also Howard form AR Fabrications, they have built a MONSTER of a SOHC! I will let him pot his newest #s if he wants. Just SICK though!</TD></TR></TABLE>
YUP.....lol
Brians is now over 475whp!
Ours is still at 407whp...but on stock sleeves and no block guard....
BTW if your looking for a sleeve D block we have one in stock....
As far as the DART blocks...they are a whole different animal....Im sure some rumors about my recent dyno tuning and track rumors are floating around somewhere....
PS Brians recent runs with the D posted some sick MPH at 133+....this is with a 2.6 60 and no second gear shift!
Howard
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BTW if your looking for a sleeve D block we have one in stock....
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im interested. please contact me to discuss pricing.
platinum.
BTW if your looking for a sleeve D block we have one in stock....
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im interested. please contact me to discuss pricing.
platinum.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Moxie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So far, the most we've seen through one of our blocks is 45 psi and 900+ HP. It will handle more. Ours is a dedicated casting, not a sleeved factory block. It is made to be a closed deck block from the start. It is also stronger through the main bearing area, and has enlarged water jackets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol.....45psi isnt much
Especially if its a small turbo.....its the airflow that matters... take for instance a 120#/min turbo at 45psi would make roughly 1000-1100whp....
But a 60#/min turbo at 45psi would only make 500-550whp..(if its not in its surge limit!)
Everyone needs to rate their stuff with HP not boost pressure! There are turbos out there that make 1000+whp at 20psi!...that doesnt mean your Sleeeved D'series is gonna take it...lol
Howard
lol.....45psi isnt much
Especially if its a small turbo.....its the airflow that matters... take for instance a 120#/min turbo at 45psi would make roughly 1000-1100whp....
But a 60#/min turbo at 45psi would only make 500-550whp..(if its not in its surge limit!)
Everyone needs to rate their stuff with HP not boost pressure! There are turbos out there that make 1000+whp at 20psi!...that doesnt mean your Sleeeved D'series is gonna take it...lol
Howard
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YUP.....lol
Brians is now over 475whp!
Ours is still at 407whp...but on stock sleeves and no block guard....
BTW if your looking for a sleeve D block we have one in stock....
As far as the DART blocks...they are a whole different animal....Im sure some rumors about my recent dyno tuning and track rumors are floating around somewhere....
PS Brians recent runs with the D posted some sick MPH at 133+....this is with a 2.6 60 and no second gear shift!
Howard</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear alittle more than that too!
sick!
YUP.....lol
Brians is now over 475whp!
Ours is still at 407whp...but on stock sleeves and no block guard....
BTW if your looking for a sleeve D block we have one in stock....
As far as the DART blocks...they are a whole different animal....Im sure some rumors about my recent dyno tuning and track rumors are floating around somewhere....
PS Brians recent runs with the D posted some sick MPH at 133+....this is with a 2.6 60 and no second gear shift!
Howard</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear alittle more than that too!
sick!


