Turbo or supercharge a stock s2k??
Hey, i have a 2001 S2k and wanted to go either turbo or supercharger...
for the S2k owners who already have a foreced inducted 2k let me know, whats the way to go if you dont wanna go all out and sleeve the bottom and just wanna do either low compression pistons or a more thicker headgasket but want to enjoy having a daily driven s2k??
is it worth it beefing up the bottom end a better idea?
Does anyone have a turbo or supercharged s2k with a stock bottom end and not having any problems as a daily driver or is the compression just to high for a daily driver???
and whats the boost range for a stock bottom end turbo like 7 psi safley? or more?
thanks guys!
for the S2k owners who already have a foreced inducted 2k let me know, whats the way to go if you dont wanna go all out and sleeve the bottom and just wanna do either low compression pistons or a more thicker headgasket but want to enjoy having a daily driven s2k??
is it worth it beefing up the bottom end a better idea?
Does anyone have a turbo or supercharged s2k with a stock bottom end and not having any problems as a daily driver or is the compression just to high for a daily driver???
and whats the boost range for a stock bottom end turbo like 7 psi safley? or more?
thanks guys!
At a certain point, a turbo is more of a problem than a supercharger. If you MUST go forced induction, I would go (Comptech) supercharger and set it at a moderate boost level.
If not, enjoy the car how it is and then maybe do some NA mods to it.
If not, enjoy the car how it is and then maybe do some NA mods to it.
first off, how much money do you want to spend?
that should help you decide a little easier on which to purchase...
plan on spending more if you go turbo, to do it the RIGHT way...
the bolt on supercharger kits add about 100 hp to the wheels w/ fuel pressure regulator and more with proper engine management.... i.e standalone computer
a turbo can add more hp depending on how well you have fortified the motor...
i.e. built bottom end or lowering the compression ratio w/ headgasket
built bottom end being the better way to go.....
engine management is the key to making all the power and keeping your motor from blowing apart... i would go aem ems on either application to get the best and SAFEST results....
good luck and do it right
that should help you decide a little easier on which to purchase...
plan on spending more if you go turbo, to do it the RIGHT way...
the bolt on supercharger kits add about 100 hp to the wheels w/ fuel pressure regulator and more with proper engine management.... i.e standalone computer
a turbo can add more hp depending on how well you have fortified the motor...
i.e. built bottom end or lowering the compression ratio w/ headgasket
built bottom end being the better way to go.....
engine management is the key to making all the power and keeping your motor from blowing apart... i would go aem ems on either application to get the best and SAFEST results....
good luck and do it right
ok thanks...
what do you think about just doing a bolt on comptech sc?
honestly i really dont feel like ripping apart the motor and having the down time on the car getting it sleeved. i guess ill just try doing the bolt on sc for now... i always strive for more power, maybe in the near future ill start building up the motor...
for now i guess this will do...
what do you think about just doing a bolt on comptech sc?
honestly i really dont feel like ripping apart the motor and having the down time on the car getting it sleeved. i guess ill just try doing the bolt on sc for now... i always strive for more power, maybe in the near future ill start building up the motor...
for now i guess this will do...
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Go turbo ..... just do it the right way.....get AEM EMS and do some research on diff turbo kits... check out S2KI for stuff......and also it all bout how much you want to spend..... I just spent 10K for FI.. S/C and Turbo are not cheap.... so think it out before you do anything!!
I've gone the Vortech route with the AEM EMS, headwork and 750 injectors. Stock bottom end puts out 360+ hp at 9200 rpm and is still going strong after 3/4 year and 5,000 miles. I'm running a 9500 rpm redline and 7+ lbs of boost. I dropped the Vtec engagement to 5200 so the Vtec power range is 4300 rpm.
Don't start unless you have an extra 10 grand or so to do it right. That is 10 grand beyond the base cost of the turbo/supercharger kit.
Don't start unless you have an extra 10 grand or so to do it right. That is 10 grand beyond the base cost of the turbo/supercharger kit.
My setup is similar to sideways but with smaller injectors and a touch more boost. It performs well and I haven't had any engine problems. Like Sideways my car is a play toy and I've probably spent more than I should on it...but it sure is fun
One of the things I've found is....you can find a lot more air when you open up vortechs air intake fender system and allow more flow.
I'd also note that my car is professionally built and maintained. I think that's a big part of any FI install with multiple vendor products.
I think I'm about at the max motor envelope without doing sleeving and things. It will be interesting watching how some of the new turbo kits hold up down the road a bit.
fltsfshr
One of the things I've found is....you can find a lot more air when you open up vortechs air intake fender system and allow more flow.
I'd also note that my car is professionally built and maintained. I think that's a big part of any FI install with multiple vendor products.
I think I'm about at the max motor envelope without doing sleeving and things. It will be interesting watching how some of the new turbo kits hold up down the road a bit.
fltsfshr
Can you put a blow off valve on the comptech supercharger?
i saw someone with the type s on there and i didnt see a after cooler on it...
can you put a hks blov on there with the comptech? on just the short pipe from the intake manifold to the charger?
i saw someone with the type s on there and i didnt see a after cooler on it...
can you put a hks blov on there with the comptech? on just the short pipe from the intake manifold to the charger?
Also if you supercharge it with the comptech unit, can you add any front mount intercooler and just run the pipe from the charger to the intercooler out the other end back to the intake manifold and add a bov or will that not work???
your car is meant for n/a ..i say leave n/a unless like they said eealier...unless u got 10 k to do eveything right ..or if you got an extra motor laying around then do i t... but yr car is meant for roadracing or circuit ......not drag ....that is my opinion...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also if you supercharge it with the comptech unit, can you add any front mount intercooler and just run the pipe from the charger to the intercooler out the other end back to the intake manifold and add a bov or will that not work???
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sure, you can do that.
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sure, you can do that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sideways »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've gone the Vortech route with the AEM EMS, headwork and 750 injectors. Stock bottom end puts out 360+ hp at 9200 rpm and is still going strong after 3/4 year and 5,000 miles. I'm running a 9500 rpm redline and 7+ lbs of boost. I dropped the Vtec engagement to 5200 so the Vtec power range is 4300 rpm.
Don't start unless you have an extra 10 grand or so to do it right. That is 10 grand beyond the base cost of the turbo/supercharger kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?
Don't start unless you have an extra 10 grand or so to do it right. That is 10 grand beyond the base cost of the turbo/supercharger kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?
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wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey, where did you get that avatar bro?
wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey, where did you get that avatar bro?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C45P312 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea nice ava bro, where did you get it? did you create it yourself??
Modified by Yunisden R at 3:13 PM 9/30/2004
what type of headwork done?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea nice ava bro, where did you get it? did you create it yourself??
Modified by Yunisden R at 3:13 PM 9/30/2004
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Yea nice ava bro, where did you get it? did you create it yourself??</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not mine at all. Found it in some guys photogallery on s2ki.com just thought to myself, "is it small enough to be an avatar?" sure enough it was. I remember that person not using it as his avatar so im using it.
Yea nice ava bro, where did you get it? did you create it yourself??</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not mine at all. Found it in some guys photogallery on s2ki.com just thought to myself, "is it small enough to be an avatar?" sure enough it was. I remember that person not using it as his avatar so im using it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok how do you set up the car to run a front mount intercooler and HKS bov with the comptech supercharger (non aftercooled)?
Can you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, you can, but if you haven't fabricated IC piping before, it's not a job you'd want to do yourself.
Can you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, you can, but if you haven't fabricated IC piping before, it's not a job you'd want to do yourself.
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wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?</TD></TR></TABLE>
headwork was done @ Alaniz. If you contact him, you can get some info on head packages and what not.
wow, so with vortech supercharger + AEM EMS + 750 injectors = 362rwhp?
what type of headwork done?</TD></TR></TABLE>
headwork was done @ Alaniz. If you contact him, you can get some info on head packages and what not.
yea so, 10k is about right...
I spent 5 grand on the turbo kit from inline pro...+ shipping
500 on injectors plugs and all that
another two grand in gauges, HKS EVC, turbo timer, VAFC,three greddy gauges and a pod +plus shipping
then all the dyno time, and misc parts Ive had to buy doing the install...not to mention if you pay some one to install the kit its going to cost you way more in labor. IMO it was worth every penny...go turbo the s/c doesnt make as much power
I spent 5 grand on the turbo kit from inline pro...+ shipping
500 on injectors plugs and all that
another two grand in gauges, HKS EVC, turbo timer, VAFC,three greddy gauges and a pod +plus shipping
then all the dyno time, and misc parts Ive had to buy doing the install...not to mention if you pay some one to install the kit its going to cost you way more in labor. IMO it was worth every penny...go turbo the s/c doesnt make as much power
turbo's are alot more fun then a SC besides on some cars a SC will make a whining noise wen u floor it but with a TURBO u get that wonderful spooling sound not to mention the soothing sound of a BOV


