So, I'm probably going to be needing a xmember for a crx with ls/vtec swap to clear the header. Problem is...I'm cheap My father is a machine toolist, so i was just thinking about getting ahold of a jimfab or whatever brand and making a copy of it....I mean it would save me like $300. Anyone have any insight on this? Thanks alot


Modified by spankjelly at 6:11 AM 9/23/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, I'm probably going to be needing a xmember for a crx with ls/vtec swap to clear the header. Problem is...I'm cheap My father is a machine toolist, so i was just thinking about getting ahold of a jimfab or whatever brand and making a copy of it....I mean it would save me like $300. Anyone have any insight on this? Thanks alot


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Input...anyone??? Some of you fabrication guys had to have tried something like this.

 

Design one yourself.

I have drawings i made on autocad, but i would have to sell them to you, took me hours to make.

Dont copy jimfab, or fullrace. Design your own, ever heard of patents?

 

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yeah, get a pencil, paper and some metal and knock yourself out.

 

Sure, go ahead, why not? Just make sure you use good metal.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Design one yourself.

I have drawings i made on autocad, but i would have to sell them to you, took me hours to make.

Dont copy jimfab, or fullrace. Design your own, ever heard of patents?</TD></TR></TABLE>

We don't really have the knowledge to design an essential part of the suspension on a car, that would be the reason behind copying something tried and true. What does your design cater to, CRX...street or strip, what type of header clearance. Possibly we could work something out???

 

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Like a chromoly probably???

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=957387

 

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Great link man! Thanks a lot

 

Actually I didnt fully design, i got the drawings from someone else and edited them slightly.

Geared towards ground clearance and header clearance. It mounts where the tow hooks are.

 

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Geared towards ground clearance and header clearance. It mounts where the tow hooks are.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is just for the xmember correct...no radius arms??? PM me what you would like for the CAD drawing, this is a one-time-deal for me, but it'd save me the time/hastle if you've already got one done.

 

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Great link man! Thanks a lot </TD></TR></TABLE>
no problem, it was on the 2nd page of this forum *hint* hint*

 

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Dont copy jimfab, or fullrace. Design your own, ever heard of patents?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would a patent matter, hes not selling them?

 

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Why would a patent matter, hes not selling them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

w3rd! I'd design my own, but I realize the xmember is a pretty crucial part of the suspension setup and would hate to ruin anything. I'll leave the design up to the professionals.

 

Design LMAO, there just bits of metal running forward to the same pivot point as the OEM Honda gear. The lengthe of teh tie bar makes the trvale seen on the upright fairly negliable so to all intensive purposes it doent really matter what the design is like, dynamic castor changes and bump steer wont really vary.

Of course if we left suspension to the pro's no one would lower there cars due to the effects it has on suspension geometry. Design on a traction bar goes as far as a bit of bar with 4 holes on and 2 brackets welded for the rod ends if you ask me.

You Yanks respect your tuners far too much. Tell me this then. Why dont all the parts look the same, surely someones wrong...

 

so i guess we will be sein one of your cross members pretty soon huh?

 

No

We have corners in this country so very few people care only about drag. Ive built enough single seater racing cars to have my fun with fabrication.

 

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We have corners in this country so very few people care only about drag. Ive built enough single seater racing cars to have my fun with fabrication.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you originally from France or something??? I feel a lot of animosity.

 

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We have corners in this country so very few people care only about drag. Ive built enough single seater racing cars to have my fun with fabrication.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh! well i guess since you already have fab expierence then you already know you can use one of these to help out in the corners too...

 

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oh! well i guess since you already have fab expierence then you already know you can use one of these to help out in the corners too... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Race tracks have corners though, you know you slow down befoe enetering them and in order to enhance stability while braking in a straight line or cornering, the L-shaped lower control arm has been equipped with specially tuned compliance bushings. These bushings allow the lower control arm to impart a toe-out condition on the front wheels. Allowing the wheels to toe out while braking in a corner enhances stability and allows the vehicle to track more precisely. The engineering team at Honda has tailored the suspension to take the full benefit of negative scrub geometry, especially when braking on a split-friction surface. Under this condition, the suspension tends to maintain greater directional stability by countering the forces that would normally tend to steer the vehicle in the direction of the side with the lower traction coefficient.

Happy now?

 

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Race tracks have corners though, you know you slow down befoe enetering them and in order to enhance stability while braking in a straight line or cornering, the L-shaped lower control arm has been equipped with specially tuned compliance bushings. These bushings allow the lower control arm to impart a toe-out condition on the front wheels. Allowing the wheels to toe out while braking in a corner enhances stability and allows the vehicle to track more precisely. The engineering team at Honda has tailored the suspension to take the full benefit of negative scrub geometry, especially when braking on a split-friction surface. Under this condition, the suspension tends to maintain greater directional stability by countering the forces that would normally tend to steer the vehicle in the direction of the side with the lower traction coefficient.

Happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I call bs

 

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I call bs </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow good comeback . . .

 

we arent racing stock cars w/ stock suspension! sounds like you have more book experience than anything. i could get into this much more but i dont feel like being a teacher tonight..

 

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wow good comeback . . . </TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't know I was, or needed to, make any sort of comeback . . .

 

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You must have missed the single seater comments?