Hi guys I took some pics while at RPM today and I would just like to share them with the board here is the link The last 6 pics are really those I took today, These guys are making their own manifolds and might be selling them soon.tell me what u guys think.
http://community.webshots.com/user/cojoo













[Modified by Liltrix, 12:33 AM 12/1/2001]

 

I am a little confused on your set up. First, nice Aeromotive setup...I am doing the same thing, but is that a stock gas tank with a sump welded on? Looks nice. Second, nice little 1 5/8 exhaust....Is that a cat back system...hehe. Also, what is up with that piping on the turbo?



[Modified by Blown90hatcH, 9:37 PM 11/30/2001]

 

Ok I could see how u are confused, Thats the stock civic cat back the were removing fro the car and The piping on the turbo is the tubing from the turbo to the intercooler, I will try to take another pic which might show it in greater detail.
I am putting a custom exhaust wit and N1 muffler. Today we started the car. We used an ECU from a car with a very similar setup. what do U think of the other manifold? for the normally aspirated motor?

 

Anyone else?

 

That other mani is very nice. Looks crazy for NA, but dyno will tell that story.

 

It doesn't seem to me that exhaust is going to be particularly interested in entirely changing direction to leave that black manifold out the wastegate... might work OK for really high boost levels.

Dustin

 

Well Dustin, isnt this a basic design in turbo manifolds? I have looked at the SFP mani and others and they all are designed that way.

 

what? They took slims motor apart already? Dammmm.. Oh wells.. BBQ Today!! You better not eat everything Colin. Save some food for me. BBQ BBQ BBQ! RPM does great work, and they are the coolest guys around. Especially the CEO, what a cool guy..


[Modified by ekb18c, 3:06 PM 12/1/2001]

 

Stop kissing *** Colin, it will get U nowhere, I spoke to the CEO already LOL, BBQ, BBQ, BBQ ah that Chan's chicken was the best, thats some good Thai food

 

Waw that exhaust manifold looks like a killer manifold, how much does that thing cost?

 

that setup is hot...liltrix dont f around! making your own manifolds is the ****....custom as it gets...i have a sfp mainfold similar to the finished mainfold in the pics...i have been messing around with custom manifolds for a lil bit and once i get good i plan to do the same thing as u guys at rpm, make own manifold=make more power!!!!!!!

boost issss beautiful!

 

Thanx dude, I am just hoping that manifold flows the correct numbers, I am looking for the 400-450 range with that setup

 

Hi siksivik, thanx for the compliment,which manifold are referring to. I will find out from the boyz what each mani can be sold for.

 

That's the turbo exhuast manifold you been braggin' so much about??....

 

Bragging? Did anyone see a hint of bragging on this thread? I looked at the entire thread again and I did not see an instance where I bragged, I asked for everyone's opinion, some gave it and some didnt, this is just a rough design though the finished manifold will be completed by the end of January.

 

Didn't see "bragging" either!

 

please refer to your comments in the maxrev manifold post. I could sit here and list the things that arent optimal about that specific manifold you posted up, but I know your plenty up on the topics of anti-reversion and efficiency, so I won't waste my breath.

 

Well,
I actually read pages 1,2 and then from 12~19 and I still did not see any bragging, What I saw were owners of the manifold complaining and generally venting about stuff they didnt like. Someone even posted a pic of his, showing they welded a space. In a couple of the posts, I referred to this manifold and the Kooks manifold just to explain the issue of a collector design when it seems that Geoff and others were not understanding what I was saying, I even asked geoff for a quote for a manifold with a Burns collector, I told him A/C nor Stainless steel was needed, he never responded, so I am going to have RPM build another one. When the manifold was completed, I asked everyone for their opinion some gave and others didnt, If at all possible could U please give me your honest opinion on it instead of asking me about another post I made? We are here to help each other and to build this board when I posted about Maxrev's manifold, I was giving my honest opinion until other members started taking it personal. there is nothing personal about it especially if you are giving your honest opinion. Thanx





[Modified by Liltrix, 7:34 AM 12/3/2001]

 

okay, it's pointless to argue over the semantics of what constitutes bragging, so I'll change my response to, I don't see what's so special about your manifold to justify splitting hairs about the maxrev manifold. While your manifold *might* have some performance advantage over the maxrev, I highly doubt that it will offset what your design gives up in terms of longevity and strenght, and that's the point you've been missing the entire time.




[Modified by SEFI8LOxCivic, 1:01 PM 12/3/2001]

 

Well, U actaully didnt make a point until now so its not that I was missing anything, however, your point is well taken, we considered the longevity and strength issues and that why we made the mani from a heavier gauge steel steel instead of stainless steel. We might make the final product with the same gauge stailness steel as the Maxrev's.
Thanx for making that very valuable point, I need more points like this, I was also thinking that the outer runners coming out of the head might be at too sharp of an angle, that also might impede flow, I think we might have to go bacl to the drawing board. we did it that way with the firing order in mind.

 

Actually that point didn't start in this thread. It started in the other one. No one ever said that the maxrev manifold was the most efficient manifold on the market, the compromise here is durability in exchange for efficiency. You can't expect both durability and effeciency at a low price.

But anyways, I wrote that response before I got to read your edited post, so excuse me because I know I wasn't being constructive.

In all honesty I don't think you manifold is a bad piece if the price ranges from 400-600 dollars. Anymore, and I would definately expect the design to incorporate more R&D.

If it's made from mild steel I would definately jethot the manifold because mild steel has been known to rust from inside out when just painted black. I would think about devising some sort of brace for the assembly to further prevent cracking.

Asthetically, I think the welds could be more uniform and the manifold would look better if the outside runners didn't include those disproportionately smaller pieces that link the larger ones.

 

Hey dude I think that those manifolds are hot, Please give me RPM's # I will definately call them tomorrow for a manifold.

 

Their # is 718-740-3277, Please call and ask for Tommy. I will tell them U R gonna call them, just tell them Colin sent ya!!

 

Wow They look good!

 

I spoke to Tommy today and I will be in NY for Christmas and the New Year, I will also turbocharge my car there at RPM (Christmas Gift) when they return on Jan 7th, I also spoke to some of the guys who were there getting their cars tuned. It seems that they are big on DFIs, they already have 9 cars running the Generation 7 DFI. Wow, I cant wait.