The Official Formula 1 2018 Season Thread
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Congrats on the article.Thanks Guys!
No Complaints about the MFactory stuff so far. From what I understand they are very similar in design to the Cusco stuff. If I was to do it over again I would probably go with an OSGiken.
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But do it once I suppose... The OSG is a clutch diff right? MF clutch also? 1.5?
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Tech article on IndyCar sway bars/anti-roll bars.
Indycar Racing News - IndyCar innovation blooms in suspension pieces
Indycar Racing News - IndyCar innovation blooms in suspension pieces
What is this crap?
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"But the ARBs are also a weight transfer device. They remove load from the inside tire and add load to the outside tire. Because of the physics of pneumatic tires, that load transfer reduces the total grip of that axle.
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"But the ARBs are also a weight transfer device. They remove load from the inside tire and add load to the outside tire. Because of the physics of pneumatic tires, that load transfer reduces the total grip of that axle.
The inside tire should be pressed in right? The ARB fights the "roll", so the opposite of the lifting inside tire is... more normal load.
Should try to evenly distribute the axle loads. That's what my 2 second FBD tells me anyways.
Nick/Reyes, what am I missing here?
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i think i get it: when the body leans, the outside tire has more weight transfer on it compressing the suspension on that side.
as you increase rollbar stiffness that allows more force to be applied to the inside tire to try to match what's happening on the outside. so the inside tire starts to get "loaded up" through the ARB. "loaded up" means compressing the inside suspension. not pressing it down into the pavement more. this is how it tries to keep the car level.
i think it's just worded too simply. one of those things that you just gloss over if you already understand it or don't understand it at all.
as you increase rollbar stiffness that allows more force to be applied to the inside tire to try to match what's happening on the outside. so the inside tire starts to get "loaded up" through the ARB. "loaded up" means compressing the inside suspension. not pressing it down into the pavement more. this is how it tries to keep the car level.
i think it's just worded too simply. one of those things that you just gloss over if you already understand it or don't understand it at all.
Originally Posted by wickerpedia
Excessive roll stiffness, typically achieved by configuring an anti-roll bar too aggressively, can make the inside wheels lift off the ground during hard cornering.
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There is already 3 elements on the Halo of Alfonso's car......does teams have so much "freedom" in that area?
Will we see a 7 stacked element on top of the halo by seasons end?
Will we see a 7 stacked element on top of the halo by seasons end?
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i think i get it: when the body leans, the outside tire has more weight transfer on it compressing the suspension on that side.
as you increase rollbar stiffness that allows more force to be applied to the inside tire to try to match what's happening on the outside. so the inside tire starts to get "loaded up" through the ARB. "loaded up" means compressing the inside suspension. not pressing it down into the pavement more. this is how it tries to keep the car level.
i think it's just worded too simply. one of those things that you just gloss over if you already understand it or don't understand it at all.
as you increase rollbar stiffness that allows more force to be applied to the inside tire to try to match what's happening on the outside. so the inside tire starts to get "loaded up" through the ARB. "loaded up" means compressing the inside suspension. not pressing it down into the pavement more. this is how it tries to keep the car level.
i think it's just worded too simply. one of those things that you just gloss over if you already understand it or don't understand it at all.
I'm still trying to understand that sentence, but it's just too awful and me too stupid, to put it all together.
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It's happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MONTOYA WILL RACE AT LEMANS!
MONTOYA WILL RACE AT LEMANS!
United Autosports, the sportscar team part-owned by McLaren boss Zak Brown, has just announced that two-time Indy 500 winner and 2003 Monaco GP laureate Juan Pablo Montoya will join the LMP2 outfit for the 2018 Le Mans 24 Hours.
The Colombian will be sharing his #32 Ligier JS P2 with United's regular drivers Will Owen and Hugo de Sadeleer.
"I’m very excited about the opportunity to experience Le Mans and I’m looking forward to joining United Autosports after they had such a strong finish at Le Mans last year.
"I’ve always watched the race so I’m very happy to finally be part of it. Hopefully we can have a shot at a win."
An outright win for Montoya next June at Le Mans is unlikely given the event's expanded faster LMP1 field, but the seven-time Grand Prix winner could consider the race as an exploratory endeavor for the future.
As a member of Penske's Daytona Prototype international IMSA outfit, Montoya will be attentive to ongoing talks between IMSA and the ACO/WEC sanctioning bodies about allowing a DPi-style car to potentially replace the LMP1 category sometime in the future.
"It would be cool to get some experience there if I can," Montoya recently told RACER's Marshall Pruett.
"I've never been there [for the race]. I've been to the go-kart track there, but that's it. And my personal opinion is I think the rules will go towards the [DPi] formula that IMSA has.
"It would be really good, and would strengthen the chances of DPi teams going there."
The Colombian will be sharing his #32 Ligier JS P2 with United's regular drivers Will Owen and Hugo de Sadeleer.
"I’m very excited about the opportunity to experience Le Mans and I’m looking forward to joining United Autosports after they had such a strong finish at Le Mans last year.
"I’ve always watched the race so I’m very happy to finally be part of it. Hopefully we can have a shot at a win."
An outright win for Montoya next June at Le Mans is unlikely given the event's expanded faster LMP1 field, but the seven-time Grand Prix winner could consider the race as an exploratory endeavor for the future.
As a member of Penske's Daytona Prototype international IMSA outfit, Montoya will be attentive to ongoing talks between IMSA and the ACO/WEC sanctioning bodies about allowing a DPi-style car to potentially replace the LMP1 category sometime in the future.
"It would be cool to get some experience there if I can," Montoya recently told RACER's Marshall Pruett.
"I've never been there [for the race]. I've been to the go-kart track there, but that's it. And my personal opinion is I think the rules will go towards the [DPi] formula that IMSA has.
"It would be really good, and would strengthen the chances of DPi teams going there."
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ESPN broadcast is awful, I miss NBC. Wifey and I always watch the race together, and she hated it. NBC was much more friendly to the casual viewer.
> No pre-race stuff
> SO MANY COMMERCIALS. It was like a BMW commercial on repeat, occasionally interrupted by racing.
> Broadcasters don't go to commercial at the same time, so you miss half the commentary.
ESPN will hurt US F1 fanbase.
> No pre-race stuff
> SO MANY COMMERCIALS. It was like a BMW commercial on repeat, occasionally interrupted by racing.
> Broadcasters don't go to commercial at the same time, so you miss half the commentary.
ESPN will hurt US F1 fanbase.
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F1 is launching the streaming service in the US at some point. NBC and ESPN knew this, and NBC likely couldn't justify their investment in a dedicated broadcast team for something that will probably lose half its viewers once the streaming service is launched.
ESPN went the cheapest route possible, buying sky's coverage. Hopefully they'll add a ticker at the bottom that tells people what's going on during the commercials...or just splice the commercial in and return to where they left off when the commercial ends. Who knows.
ESPN went the cheapest route possible, buying sky's coverage. Hopefully they'll add a ticker at the bottom that tells people what's going on during the commercials...or just splice the commercial in and return to where they left off when the commercial ends. Who knows.
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Wait, ESPN doesn't pay anything to Liberty for the F1 rights? How is that possible?
Edit, nevermind: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#1f012fc2bcbd
Edit, nevermind: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#1f012fc2bcbd
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Wait, ESPN doesn't pay anything to Liberty for the F1 rights? How is that possible?
Edit, nevermind: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#1f012fc2bcbd
Edit, nevermind: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#1f012fc2bcbd
According to a report by the investment bank Morgan Stanley, NBC Sports was paying $4 million annually to broadcast F1, but ESPN is getting it for free. ESPN was in the right place at the right time and made the most of it. That’s the secret to success in business, but it’s just the start of the story.