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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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Also Karun Chandhok's theory on Merc's struggle is that the car does not like low grip tarmac.

Such as Malaysia, Singapore, certain tracks right after rain, etc.

He believes it should be quick at Suzuka as the surface is very sticky.
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Track prob gonna be green Fri/Sat. Looks like sum good rain

if William tap KUB for the drive I will def be rooting for them. Would be nice to have Bob back.
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Wouldn't it be better to just go down the straight at partial throttle?
part throttle is usually not the most efficient operating point for an engine. the point of pulsed throttle application is to operate the engine near peak efficiency (WOT) and then coast for a while so the engine is not ever operating at part throttle. think of the pumping loss of the engine trying to inhale with the throttle body partially closing off the inlet to the intake manifold. not the most efficient configuration.

i'm sure f1 engines are so wacky there's probably all sorts of tricks to play.

esteban, i know the MGU-H charges the batteries under throttle. for some reason i think that's more efficient than running the MGU-K under load - that is speculation based on what comments leaked to the f1 press in the past. maybe less loss than recovering energy through the drivetrain? MGU-H turbo to motor/generator is basically like an aircraft APU
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Also Karun Chandhok's theory on Merc's struggle is that the car does not like low grip tarmac.

Such as Malaysia, Singapore, certain tracks right after rain, etc.

He believes it should be quick at Suzuka as the surface is very sticky.
that's an interesting theory. if they're magically on pace come sunday then that will be hard to explain otherwise
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esteban, i know the MGU-H charges the batteries under throttle. for some reason i think that's more efficient than running the MGU-K under load - that is speculation based on what comments leaked to the f1 press in the past. maybe less loss than recovering energy through the drivetrain? MGU-H turbo to motor/generator is basically like an aircraft APU
I'm sure the charging states are programmable after considering the problem for 5 minutes.

As you mentioned the ERS-H is the more efficient recovery strategy, whereas you went ERS-K for accel/decel. If you have ERS-K harvesting, that essentially means you're either decelerating (bad for coasting) or having to overcome the ERS-K drag/generator with engine power (bad for fuel consumption saving). So I assume in the lift and coast fuel save mode, you'll only get the ERS-K activated during firm braking (charging and decelerating when you want it), and to accelerate out of the next corner saving fuel and increasing the rate of accel.

i've taken a class in controls. I do not want.
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There are discussions on F1T about the different modes and even overrides the driver can use to alter the harvesting strategy. For instance a driver trying to overtake someone at the end of a straight would not want derating to occur.

I've found those discussions quite interesting. Once you spend a little bit of time thinking about the control modes and the various ways energy can be harvested and deployed you realize how complex these systems are and how easy it is to miss the mark or make big gains.
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Why are they afraid of Kubica? And did Sainz mess up Kubica's chances with Renault? Or shall we blame McLaren? Or Honda? =P
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Bob has no upside for Stroll. If Stroll beats KUb so what, he's been out of F1 and was seriously injured. If KUB beats Stroll that is very bad for Stroll's future as far as a better ride goes.

It should be noted Williams isn't afraid of KUB the Stroll family is...
Old Oct 3, 2017 | 08:42 PM
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So right now it looks like Q and probably even FP3 will be dry/drying but FP1/2 look pretty wet and the rain Fri/Fri night would suggest a green track Sat.
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If Kub has the speed, he'll get the seat. You can teach/learn everything else, but outright pace you either got or ya dont. Bob > PDR erryday
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if DIR brings any money he gets the seat.
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And did Sainz mess up Kubica's chances with Renault?
kinda



but kubica's manager is working hard to secure the seat for him
Old Oct 3, 2017 | 10:11 PM
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From a Sponsor point of view I think KUB is the one to go for. If I'm Martini I think about all the extra camera time Bob is going to get, especially during the first half of the season. Until the novelty wears off you'll be seeing a lot of him on camera I would think, even if the car is a POS.
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if DIR brings any money he gets the seat.
well.
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Originally Posted by falcongsr
kinda



but kubica's manager is working hard to secure the seat for him
I see ROS is still rocking Bernie's Christmas card on his desk

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how the heck did u dis
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I look at the image and say "enhance!"....
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F juan coverage is moving to ESPN next year. Which means nothing to all of us that are streaming UK feeds.

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If they get rid of Varsha, Diffey, Hobbs & Matchett they could win my viewership.
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The United States Grand Prix will be broadcast on ABC, with all the races being broadcast live on ESPN, ESPN2 or ABC. More than 125 hours of Formula 1 programming, including all practice sessions, qualifying and races, will be shown live and in replay across ESPN platforms.
nice. but if you think i'm gonna pay to watch commercials...
In a separate announcement Sky Sports F1 has announced that World Champion Nico Rosberg will be joining the commentary team in Japan this weekend, alongside Martin Brundle, Damon Hill, Johnny Herbert, Anthony Davidson and Ted Kravitz. He will also be making appearances on Sky Sports in Italy and Germany.
i thought we were rid of him
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Originally Posted by bluuu
If they get rid of Varsha, Diffey, Hobbs & Matchett they could win my viewership.
You say that like the alternatives would be better...Paul Page, Jackie Stewart, Jack Arute, Jamie Little and Jon Beekhuis might be rolling your way in 2018.
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i thought we were rid of him
I think Nico could be a GREAT commentator. He's very intelligent, he's well spoken & I think in a non-competitive setting he's quite charming. He also has credibility as a guy who actually had enough pace to keep up & occasionally beat Lewis.

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You say that like the alternatives would be better...Paul Page, Jackie Stewart, Jack Arute, Jamie Little and Jon Beekhuis might be rolling your way in 2018.
In my dream world Chilton gives up his dream of racing and he & Buxton rule the booth.
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Originally Posted by bluuu
If they get rid of Varsha, Diffey, Hobbs & Matchett they could win my viewership.
Well they already got rid of Varsha, and Diffey is an NBC guy, so half way home!

Not that I care much. F1 with commercials is something I can no longer abide, dude.
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Well they already got rid of Varsha, and Diffey is an NBC guy, so half way home!

Not that I care much. F1 with commercials is something I can no longer abide, dude.
Seriously.

I'll torrent a race before watching it live with commercials.
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Seriously.

I'll torrent a race before watching it live with commercials.
I use the edit button.

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