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Old Sep 22, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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rumors are that Lance Stroll's sponsorship money has a say in the 2nd seat, and Kubica is not favored.

massa and di resta are favored over kubica, weirlein, and even some speculation over palmer now that he's free.
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rumors are that Lance Stroll's sponsorship money has a say in the 2nd seat, and Kubica is not favored.

massa and di resta are favored over kubica, weirlein, and even some speculation over palmer now that he's free.
While initially I thought that was fuct, it makes sense to me now. If the check is big enough, it doesn't matter if you're Martini or just some rich dude.

I agree Bob Kubica is a lose/lose for Lance doe. Beat Bob and no bone cares. But if Bob is as fast as he was before, well that's a bad look.
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yeah don't want to see the kid get rekt, better stick with MAS or DIR

WEH is too young for an alcohol sponsor #oldguysrule
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That makes sense but boy does it suck. Wood like to see Bob back but I have a feeling he wood make Stroll look not so impressive. Just a hunch, have no facts to back it up.

On the other hand having someone who is not a good driver isn't going to challenge the kid or help the team with feedback for the developing the car. So not having a good driver in the other seat may actually hurt little baby Lance.
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Lawrence Stroll May Be Afraid of Kubica Partnering Lance - The Drive

The pressure Lawrence Stroll is exerting on Williams is at least moderately worrying for Kubica fans, though. On one hand, the money flowing into the team as a result of the seat bought by Stroll family money means that Lawrence may have some influence on the team, but on the other, his sway may be limited by the fact that the Strolls can be considered a customer of the team, buying a seat that could otherwise be occupied by a better driver. We speculate there isn't much Lawrence can do to twist Williams' arm away from hiring Kubica; if he were to threaten to pull money from the team, they'd drop Lance for another one of their drivers lined up for a seat. Massa, di Resta, Ericsson, Wehrlein, Palmer...all would be ready to pounce on the opening.

The Stroll family may have some influence, but they ought to keep in mind that despite Lance's two strong performances this year, he's still a pay driver, and hasn't showcased the same results that he displayed in his second year of Euro F3, in 2016.

There is, at least of now, little reason to believe that Kubica will be dropped due to pressure from the Stroll family. Should we hear anything from Massa, or any of the other drivers gunning for Williams' second seat, the dominoes will begin to fall.
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https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...servia-955797/

“More than anything, the 2018 aerokit really allows you to follow the car in front so much better than this year’s car,” said Servia. “No joke, at Mid-Ohio Turn 1, I have never ever been able to follow someone that close, not at the speeds we’re turning in.

“But in the new car, I was on Montoya’s gearbox – literally, right there – and as we approached Turn 1, I thought, ‘Oh ****, I’ve got to try and do this but I’m probably going to go straight off.’ But no, I was able to stick with him all the way through. Then when Juan followed me, it was the same for him. When we got back to pitlane, we got out of the car saying, ‘Wow, this is awesome!’
Looking forward to IndyCar next year. Looks good, hope the racing is as good as promised
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So almost champ Massa isn't challenging Stroll enough? I honestly haven't paid attention to their individual results as teammates.
Old Sep 22, 2017 | 11:44 PM
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So almost champ Massa isn't challenging Stroll enough? I honestly haven't paid attention to their individual results as teammates.
Massa was almost champ damn near 10 years and 1 near death experience ago. Not to mention Massa seems pretty demotivated

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Remember Williams retired MAS once already. They had to pull him back in at the last minute when BOT got called up to race in F1.
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Remember MAS was getting wiped by BOT, who is showing good not great against HAM. You want a stronger lead driver if you're Williams.
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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Looking forward to IndyCar next year. Looks good, hope the racing is as good as promised
they claim more downforce comes from under the car, but the road car still has a big rear wing. they claim they can run nose-to-tail better...but that is probably only compared to the current bodykits. i mean yeah they're going to take 2000 lbs of downforce away compared to the current cars, but isn't that just going back to the same thing we had before chevy/honda aerokits?

so it'll take some adjusting for the drivers but then we're back to the same racing they abandoned before, basically

i admit the car looks nicer, and i sincerely hope they're doing something different. i can't see any good angles but they might be throwing a lot more air in between the rear wheels to fill in the low pressure zone behind the car. this would both energize the undertray and give the following car's front wing something to work with
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And that was just 2 cars, a line of 5 cars might be moar of a problem. However, I'm going remain cautiously optimistic for now. I like the fact that the new cars continue to accelerate rapidly in higher gears and braking distances will be increased. Also like that lifting/braking will probably be needed on ovals.
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 10:18 PM
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Sweet the Halo and now this...

F1's insane solution to noise issue

The sport's commercial boss, Sean Bratches has revealed that plans are underway for a microphone to be placed on cars' exhausts in order that the sound can be amplified.

He then revealed that David Hill, a man with a "stellar reputation in sports television and broadcast innovation" is working on the idea. "He's working with a German concern to develop a ceramic microphone that we can actually adhere to the exhaust pipe to get the true amplification of sound for fans," said Bratches.
My favorite comment:
"There is also a rumor going around that the new microphone will count as one of the components that will incur a grid penalty.

If the sound does not match up to the new FIA regulation on exhaust noise volume then the driver will be given the choice of taking a 5 grid slot penalty or having to make up the sound deficit but making the required sound effects over the intercom."
Old Sep 24, 2017 | 06:15 AM
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When you have a fast car you don’t need to use the highest modes until Q3 and ultimately if you really want to make sure you aren’t going to break down within the life of that engine you try to use them sparingly and keep the damage down or at least some in your pocket for a tricky day or a close fight in a race. Then when they do ‘turn it up’ it will give them a bigger step than those mid-field teams that have been using the higher end of the range in Q2.

Mercedes are particularly good at this ‘damage’ cycle system and they analyse the harmonics in the engine through its life to understand things like levels of piston slap, blow-by and wear characteristics and so on. Ferrari has also made good gains here.

So the ‘damage’ cycles left on the engine can be really well re-evaluated through the life of the engine. They can consider whether to turn it up for longer than planned at race 2 of its cycle, for example.
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/...ngineers-view/
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I read that last night. The entire article is fascinating and makes me think that my thoughts one what they are doing and how they are doing it are close to reality. The oil component burning isn't the silver bullet (I don't think there is one). It's the summations of all the tricks (some gray area some not) that is making the Merc PU so awesome.
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Technical: 2017 season's major clampdowns - GPUpdate.net

Good read, but long. I'm not gonna post anything from it tho.
Old Sep 24, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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I see a berm that looks like the Karussell corner and a castle an a hill.

The green hell / Nordschleife?
Old Sep 24, 2017 | 10:26 PM
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Yup. It's from the construction of said Hell

And why are you awake? lol
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 12:54 AM
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Found this interestering article
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When is MCL going to confirm ALO
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Where could he go?

Williams!?!? :-o
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 07:14 AM
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that would be a doozy
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 07:21 AM
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so this is the last ever Sepang F1 race?



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