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Old Jul 9, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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I knew he jumped when the lights went out.

The falcon's of the world may lead you to believe that "sensors" and "data acquisition" are "science" and "you're wrong and science isn't so STFU". But those systems have this thing called "errors" built in. Can't avoid them. Sometimes you just gotta SEE IT WITH UR OWN DAM EYEBALLZ.

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he got lucky. he was rollin before lights out but that's allowed. he didn't leave his start box before the lights went out which apparently is ok despite the rule that an "anticipated" start is forbidden. something about it being ok to let out the clutch before you give it gas.

apparently this revealed something about the amount of margin the FIA allows in jump starts. and it is something they don't want to disclose because if teams know the exact threshold they'll start pushing it. expect more shenanigans now that this is considered legal.

people might start parking back in their start boxes and roll forward before lights out to help with the launch.
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Old Jul 9, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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I'm surprised with all the rules and regulations there isn't something as cut and dry as drag racing for jump starts.
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I'm surprised with all the rules and regulations there isn't something as cut and dry as drag racing for jump starts.
F1 should put usdm420 in charge of race starts.
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I'm surprised with all the rules and regulations there isn't something as cut and dry as drag racing for jump starts.
Even drag racing has room for wheel movement...Not until the tire breaks the beams does it count, but the tire can still move without breaking out.
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coffee thought: Is there a maximum amount of time the lights can hold before going out? If so, maybe b077as just counted to that point and let it go knowing it had to change due to the maximum? It was a long hold there, so it makes perfect sense to me in my self-built scenario.
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i read it was 9 seconds max which i dont think i've ever seen
Old Jul 10, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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Any juan else think Kvyat is out after this year? If ALO plays his cards right, he might be able to line up as the next Red Bull junior driver.



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Daniil Kvyat looks set to remain at Toro Rosso next year, after his Red Bull bosses indicated that they will shortly take up the option on his contract for 2018.

The Russian has had his fair share of frustrations this year and scored just four points from the first nine races of the season, compared to the 29 that teammate Carlos Sainz has delivered.

But despite another difficult race in Austria, where Kvyat triggered a first corner incident that led to the exit of Max Verstappen, Red Bull says it retains faith in him on the back of the good speed he has delivered this year.

Red Bull boss Christian Horner said: "He misjudged his braking point and Max was an unfortunate victim of that. But I don't think anybody is going to come down too hard on him."

With Red Bull having assured Sainz of a deal for next year, Horner said that Kvyat was also likely to be confirmed imminently at Toro Rosso too.

When asked if Kvyat's option had been taken up, Horner said: "Not yet but I cannot see a scenario where it won't be.

"He has actually driven a pretty sensible season so far, so the likelihood is that it will be taken up in the relatively near future."

The news on Kvyat and Sainz will be bad for Red Bull reserve Pierre Gasly, who had hoped that an opportunity would open up at Toro Rosso for 2018.

The lack of movement at Toro Rosso comes with Red Bull having both Daniel Ricciardo and Verstappen under contract for next year too.

There had been talk that Ferrari was trying to lure Verstappen away, and even stories over the Austria weekend that the Dutchman had asked to leave his current team.

But Horner reiterated that Verstappen was going nowhere until at least 2020.

"It is total propaganda. Total rubbish," said Horner about the reports. "He has a contract for 2019. Then after '19 he's on the open market."

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So you're saying Kvyat > ALO
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I'd give Gasly a shot in 2018. I bet he get's his chance in 2018 anyways. Not like STR hasn't swapped people out mid season before.

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i read it was 9 seconds max which i dont think i've ever seen
way to kill me scenario. thanks falcon.
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So you're saying Kvyat > ALO
Old Jul 10, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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it's actually inconceivable
Old Jul 10, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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Yeah, I don't see Kvyat staying next year. Gasly will probably get the nod.
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I'm surprised with all the rules and regulations there isn't something as cut and dry as drag racing for jump starts.
I think it was mentioned after the race that the minimum reaction time permitted by the rules is 0.1 seconds.

If I'm not mistaken, a reaction time under 0.2 seconds is considered a red light in drag racing?
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If I'm not mistaken, a reaction time under 0.2 seconds is considered a red light in drag racing?
under .4 on a pro tree (all 3 yellows flash at once before the green), under .5 on a regular Sportsman tree... but it can get confusing because some tracks set the .4 RT as .000.

but you can still have tire rollout and not break the beams, depending on how the car is staged - like what we had w/Bottas

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https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/851333601690290/
Old Jul 10, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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Even drag racing has room for wheel movement...Not until the tire breaks the beams does it count, but the tire can still move without breaking out.
Yeah, the fun of calculating rollout and shallow or deep staging. Gets even more fun when you realize that the starting line beam is tripped by the tire and the finish line is tripped by body work (on most drag cars).

I just have a constant annoyance regarding the amount of time it takes to investigate something in F1. Street Outlaws can figure out if someone jumped a start quicker than F1 stewards.
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Link or post or whatever might have expired like a Honda power unit.

EDIT: Clicking on the quoted link works.
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