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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 08:07 AM
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looks like a gearbox melt
I'd bet a McHonda gearbox melt tastes better than that thing Outrun was promoting lol

Probably tastes like Alonso's tears
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 08:24 AM
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Even with all the Peugeot engine failures at least McLaren-Peugeot got some podiums in 1994. I wouldn't be mad if McHonda finish last.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 08:27 AM
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Even with all the Peugeot engine failures at least McLaren-Peugeot got some podiums in 1994. I wouldn't be mad if McHonda finish last.
Yeah but cars were a lot less reliable then and the engines (not PUs) so simple. So it was easier to luck into points/podiums. Not so much nowadays because the engines aren't being pushed to the edge like back in the day.

Bring back engines that only had to last 1 race. #makef1greatagain
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 08:38 AM
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rev limits was the wrong turn

"we need to limit costs"

"let's come up with a really complex hybrid system with multiple MGUs"

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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 08:47 AM
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to be fair i was all onboard for the complex engine tech. i didn't expect so much effort end up focused on exotic combustion / fuel tech that isn't applicable outside of F1. i thought it would spur more hybrid R&D and would help breakthrough something with batteries or energy recovery, but it seems like there's one optimal solution for that and everyone is converging on it and that's the end of it.

tech/complexity for it's own sake is a waste to me. i was hoping the engine regs would spur development of technology that would be useful elsewhere, but it isn't clear that anything that's been implemented in F1 engine tech will trickle down to anything else. it's just really exotic to optimize for the specific technical regulations of F1 and nothing else.

e.g. nothing like VTEC or hybrid power innovations have come out of the new engine formula yet. instead we got jet engine igniters in precombustion chambers, exotic fuel mixes that aren't relevant anywhere else, and oil formulations with combustion products in them to cheat the fuel flow regs.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 09:06 AM
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to be fair i was all onboard for the complex engine tech. i didn't expect so much effort end up focused on exotic combustion / fuel tech that isn't applicable outside of F1. i thought it would spur more hybrid R&D and would help breakthrough something with batteries or energy recovery, but it seems like there's one optimal solution for that and everyone is converging on it and that's the end of it.

tech/complexity for it's own sake is a waste to me. i was hoping the engine regs would spur development of technology that would be useful elsewhere, but it isn't clear that anything that's been implemented in F1 engine tech will trickle down to anything else. it's just really exotic to optimize for the specific technical regulations of F1 and nothing else.

e.g. nothing like VTEC or hybrid power innovations have come out of the new engine formula yet. instead we got jet engine igniters in precombustion chambers, exotic fuel mixes that aren't relevant anywhere else, and oil formulations with combustion products in them to cheat the fuel flow regs.
This may freak you out but damn we think a lot alike. It's scary lol. I felt the same way, I was excited to see what advancements could be made. Instead we got what we got. It's interesting but its beyond what I think F1 needs to be.

I'm ready to say lets go back to a atmospheric engine displacement limit along with a total fuel limit. The reason I say ditch the turbos is as much as I want to see 1400 hp qualifying setups, which is what would happen with turbos and unlimited fuel flow, FIA won't allow it. Engines have to do 1 full race weekend, no exotic metal use. I'd like to limit the number of aero updates teams can use during the season but I'm not sure that would really help control costs. Get rid of DRS, bring back KERS and make its use unlimited.

I'm sure there are some flaws in there but its what I'v come up after a little bit of thought. Can't be much worse than what we got.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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last thing brawn floated was go back to naturally aspirated engine + simple KERS.

this might be a good compromise to keep the engine mfrs in the sport (marketing teams can keep banging the hybrid drum) but it would also make engines simple enough for honda to build.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 09:29 AM
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last thing brawn floated was go back to naturally aspirated engine + simple KERS.

this might be a good compromise to keep the engine mfrs in the sport (marketing teams can keep banging the hybrid drum) but it would also make engines simple enough for honda to build.
Not only that but it would allow for the likes of Cosworth and such to return to the sport. Having an engine not tied to a manufacturer/works operation would be a good thing I think.
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Bring back DFV!
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 09:39 AM
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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 10:46 AM
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Harriers just landed. Damn fence got in the way so the pics of the planes are blurry. The fence is crystal clear tho. Used the far runway so could get a good shot of them in the air.
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u need roof access
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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I think even standing on the office pickup might get me enough height. If the jackholes would only let em use the near runway...
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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unless wind direction is dictating runway use, there's probably noise / security restrictions determining the active runway.

Shirley they noticed some ****** kept coming out of the NWS offices so they thought it was better to keep the exotic birds away from buildings.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:15 AM
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Apparently an F-16 went down at Dayton Air Show, possibly a Thunderbird F-16. Haven't had a chance to check for updates.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:23 AM
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Apparently an F-16 went down at Dayton Air Show, possibly a Thunderbird F-16. Haven't had a chance to check for updates.
Damn it. Hope no one was injured or worse.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...o-baku-922148/

With Alonso and Stoffel Vandoorne running more similar downforce levels in FP2, the main speed trap in Baku showed the new power unit at 327km/h, with Vandoorne getting just up to 312 km/h with the ‘Spec 2’ version.

There remains plenty of room for improvement though, with the fastest speed recorded through the trap being 354 km/h by the Force India-Mercedes of Esteban Ocon.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:26 AM
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Just checked and it was the 7 plane that turned over. Probably doing press or VIP rides as it was reported that two people were in the plane, condition unknown.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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Good news, kinda. The F16 was taxiing when a gust of wind flipped it over. No injuries reported at this point

Article I read said they were doing some prep **** for the show this weekend.
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landed during t-storm
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you dont see that everyday
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:48 AM
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Lots of LSRs out of Wilmington, OH office.

However, looking at the KDAY obs the highest gusts was 21 kt which is 24 mph

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Dayton Daily News photographer Ty Greenlees is on the scene. He reports photographer Ricardo von Puttkammer told him he saw the two-seat Thunderbird land and taxi toward the staging area when it appeared that a gust of wind flipped the F-16 on its top. Von Puttkammer is chief correspondent for Aviation Photojournal in New York City.
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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micromicroburst like the one that lost Nico the 2015 WDC in Austin?
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 11:56 AM
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micromicroburst like the one that lost Nico the 2015 WDC in Austin?
Nanoburst confirmed
Old Jun 23, 2017 | 12:11 PM
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I don't want to get my hopes up yet but I sure hope this is reality

Old Jun 23, 2017 | 02:00 PM
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Harriers just landed. Damn fence got in the way so the pics of the planes are blurry. The fence is crystal clear tho. Used the far runway so could get a good shot of them in the air.
This is a good book to read.


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