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he was supposed to be pretty good, how is he holding up against his teammates? should be fair to compare a young rookie to drivers with a few WDCs right
looks like he's tied with ALO and BUT for points. not bad.
The bottom line in all of this is that work must begin NOW on cars for 2018. It is already too late in some respects, but it is still possible. We don’t know what McLaren aerodynamicists will have in the wind tunnel at Woking, but it might be wise to have a model with a non-Honda engine. To be fair to McLaren, if there is going to be a break-up with Honda, there is a fairly sound argument that Honda failed to deliver the goods.
"Honda’s working very hard but they seem a bit lost," said Brown, who replaced Ron Dennis at the helm late last year.
"We were only told recently that we wouldn’t have the upgrade coming (for Montreal)...and we don’t have a definitive timeline, which is concerning because the pain is great and we can’t sit around forever.
"We were eagerly awaiting this upgrade as were our drivers and it’s a big disappointment that it’s not coming. It’s not lack of effort, but they are struggling to get it to come together."
"The executive committee have now given us our marching orders," said Brown, who is also chairman of the fast-growing Motorsport Network media group. "We’re not going to go into another year like this, in hope."
"I don’t want to get into what our options are. Our preference is to win the world championship with Honda. But at some point you need to make a decision as to whether that’s achievable. And we have serious concerns.
"Missing upgrades, and upgrades not delivering to the level we were told they were going to, you can only take that so long. And we’re near our limit."
McLaren have sounded out former partners Mercedes about a possible supply of engines, according to unconfirmed media reports.
"There’s lots of things that go into the decision and we’re entering that window now of 'which way do you go when you come to the fork in the road'.
Brown said there were clear advantages in a 'works' partnership but pointed to Red Bull and 2009 champions Brawn GP as examples of 'customer' teams who won titles.
"Do I think you can win with a customer engine? I think you can," he said.
Honda contribute more than $100 million a year to McLaren's budget, according to informed sources, and some have questioned whether the team can afford to lose such sums.
Brown said the reality was that McLaren had lost some big, long-term sponsors and significant prize money in the last three years.
"When you actually look at the impact of loss of FOM (Formula One payments) money and loss of sponsorship, it starts to diminish the commercial benefits of what Honda brings to the table," he said.
"And when you start to net it out, it doesn’t have quite the commercial benefit it might appear from the outside."
If McLaren splits with Honda I'll have to buy new merchandise again. I made a mistake and ordered the wrong size. You have to order one size larger due to British sizing. So the only useful thing I have is the little orange pull tab from the zippered plastic bag that the shirts are shipped in.
my prediction for whats gonna go down with McHonda, McLaren will leave Honda and obviously Honda is going to Sauber and by then Honda will have their **** figured out and next year SauberHonda will be some what competitive. McLaren will get a new engine supplier (not sure which yet) and will again be competitive, Alonso will have left McLaren already for another team (not sure what team yet) which will be struggling immensely and Alonso will be frustrated again! the circle of racing life for Alonso is not good.
my prediction for whats gonna go down with McHonda, McLaren will leave Honda and obviously Honda is going to Sauber and by then Honda will have their **** figured out and next year SauberHonda will be some what competitive. McLaren will get a new engine supplier (not sure which yet) and will again be competitive, Alonso will have left McLaren already for another team (not sure what team yet) which will be struggling immensely and Alonso will be frustrated again! the circle of racing life for Alonso is not good.
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