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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 05:22 PM
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Not liking the McHonda livery. I'm not a fan of the livery that's for the fans.
Old Feb 24, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure its written into the regs that you cannot have another wing before the rear wing. Not within those exclusion boxes anyways.
Right, but isn't that 50 mm gap going to be like the wild west? The question is have the teams found gains that don't mess with the flow to the rear wing,

Old Feb 24, 2017 | 05:37 PM
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Not liking the McHonda livery. I'm not a fan of the livery that's for the fans.
I want to see it on the track, in natural light before I make any judgements. I don't think it 'orrible but I don't think it's the best they could have done either.

They add a little bit of red and move the white...boom

Old Feb 24, 2017 | 05:51 PM
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Right, but isn't that 50 mm gap going to be like the wild west? The question is have the teams found gains that don't mess with the flow to the rear wing,
But their mounting solutions are limited to that area too. Can't connect the "tee" anywhere in that year wing box. So I don't think it's gonna be that wild. I think they'll use that wing to condition the air just a bit again before the rear wing. 50mm chord length just aint worth loading up cray cray like me thinks. Better to make that big old wing work harder/better.

But we shall see, eh?

Also Mac livery is lame. Coulda been so much better. Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory or whatever the saying is. Shoulda coulda.
Old Feb 24, 2017 | 05:57 PM
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Not liking the McHonda livery. I'm not a fan of the livery that's for the fans.
agree 100% they should of gone with all orange with black wheels.
Old Feb 24, 2017 | 06:08 PM
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But we shall see, eh?
Yeah. I'm just wondering how low/high juan of these could be placed and wood a lower juan be of any use. I am looking forward to seeing what/if anything comes of these T wings.
Old Feb 24, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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James Allen saying the fins do not add a lot and if the FIA were to banish them it's likely the engineers wouldn't care much.


Renault version looks like a proper F1 car
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 02:12 AM
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 04:43 AM
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 07:47 AM
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http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/124...s-w08-on-track
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 10:19 AM
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I think the fin on the Haas looks 10 times better having a design on it.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Haas livery is so so.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 10:23 AM
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Fin design reminds me of the Cadillac prototype:
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 11:05 AM
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SF70H in the hands of Kimi ran a 58s lap yday in coolish conditions, with power turned down, and on demo tyres. That's just 2 seconds off the lap record.

Wish teams were allowed unlimited testing for 1 month in the offseason, make it the month of Feb.

How about this idea. For each day of testing that is used a portion of the teams prize money is placed into a fund. The teams out of the top 5 are given a share of the money (based on inverse of final standings. Formula for the testing deduction is (# of test days * $1,000,000)/Final standing position from previous season.

Using last years final standings and assuming these teams all did 20 test days it would be: Merc put 20 million in the pot. RB would put 10 million in the pot. Sauber would put 2 million in the pot. If Manor had survived they would put 1.8 million in the pot.

While not the best solution it at least allows for moar testing.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 04:01 PM
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No FW19 love. =P Look at that shroud thingie wingmount over the tailpipe and the horizontal skinny top plate (for lack of a better term) over the fin.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 04:44 PM
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No FW19 love. =P Look at that shroud thingie wingmount over the tailpipe and the horizontal skinny top plate (for lack of a better term) over the fin.
No FW15C either. I'm thinking they picked the first WDC car for each livery

Australia 2000 on now
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Lookin P good
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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Michelin sticker with Pirelli tires? :confused:
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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livery not tivery
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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yes. moar of this.

Ferrari den Renault for best looking cars so far. Although I'm 'mirin dat Haas.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 07:54 PM
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Deez cars look huge. Maybe its the low wing, but the wheel base looks 15 feet long.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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monaco is going to be a cluster
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 08:16 PM
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Wheelbase is longer.

Grabbed these numbers from a post on F1T

A 1991 Ferrari 643 was 4400mm long, with a 2881mm wheelbase.
A 2000 Williams FW22 was 4540mm long, with a 3140mm wheelbase.
A 2009 Toyota TF109 was 4636mm long.
A 2016 Mercedes W07 was 5067mm long with a 3411mm wheelbase.

4400mm is a little longer than a current Vauxhall/Opel Astra or Ford Focus. 5067mm is around the length of a BMW 7 series or Mercedes S-Class.
The 2017 Merc is longer than the 2016 Merc gotta be over 5100mm at this point


I don't think the perspectives on that are identical but it's close. The wheel base has to be around 3450ish mm - 11.5 ft.
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5067mm = 16.62 ft

that's like the size of a 2016 Accord.
Old Feb 25, 2017 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ...esteban
yes. moar of this.

Ferrari den Renault for best looking cars so far. Although I'm 'mirin dat Haas.



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