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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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2006 Civic Si Coupe. K&W coilovers. OEM shocks. and these stock shocks are blown. what kind of shocks would you guys suggest? koni orange is what Ive been suggested. tokico is what Jotech motorsports in DFW texas told me as an option. does anyone else have any past experiences or recommendations? thanks guys in advance
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2006 Civic Si Coupe. K&W coilovers. OEM shocks. and these stock shocks are blown. what kind of shocks would you guys suggest? koni orange is what Ive been suggested. tokico is what Jotech motorsports in DFW texas told me as an option. does anyone else have any past experiences or recommendations? thanks guys in advance
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:54 PM
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Koni Sport (Yellows)

The install is 1000x times easier than anyone makes it sound.

Both your choices are just stock replacement shocks. The Yelllows will give you a good performance upgrade over the other.
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Koni Sport (Yellows)

The install is 1000x times easier than anyone makes it sound.

Both your choices are just stock replacement shocks. The Yelllows will give you a good performance upgrade over the other.
thats the thing i have it lowered but not slammed. im not scared of the install because ill be doing it myself.lol im just trying to make the decision on koni orange which are priced better than the yellow. i know the yellow are adjustable but the orange are supposed to work if the cars lowered. or so ive read
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The Yellows will work if the car is lowered also... The yellow is a high performance shock in comparison to the orange.
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 08:29 AM
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The Yellows will work if the car is lowered also... The yellow is a high performance shock in comparison to the orange.
I see that. but this is just my daily driver and Im not racing to the grocery store. would the orange be ok? like would they blow easier?
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will I be okay with orange? riding on 17x10 Axis Og
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 04:08 AM
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Spring rates and dampers have exponentially more to do with the tire than wheel size.

If you put a 295/30/17 Hoosier A7 on that wheel, Oranges and drop springs will not be enough to the point the car will be dangerous. If you stretch a 245 all season tire across it, you won't have any grip so any shock will do.
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Spring rates and dampers have exponentially more to do with the tire than wheel size.

If you put a 295/30/17 Hoosier A7 on that wheel, Oranges and drop springs will not be enough to the point the car will be dangerous. If you stretch a 245 all season tire across it, you won't have any grip so any shock will do.
245/40R17 95W on the Axis OG and they rub a little (hellafail) but I feel like with 4 blown shocks its kinda inevitable for the tires to rub. My stock rims are running 215/45R17 91V. If I were so inclined to put my stock rims back on would it be a problem?
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will I be okay with orange? riding on 17x10 Axis Og
17x10, that's pretty wide. You are ensuring that you don't rub the inside wheel edges on your suspension components, right?
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245/40R17 95W on the Axis OG and they rub a little (hellafail) but I feel like with 4 blown shocks its kinda inevitable for the tires to rub. My stock rims are running 215/45R17 91V. If I were so inclined to put my stock rims back on would it be a problem?
Rubbing on the fender arches or the struts? I would stick to the stock wheel sizes and get better rubber. The 17x7JJ wheels are a good moderation for traction. You are looking for trouble if you go wider with lowering springs because you will shred on both sides.

For instance, I am running my stock 17x7JJ Enkei wheels on my 2010 FA5 with 1" wheel spacers ( H&R DRM Spacers ) so my stock wheels will clear the wider FD2 R callipers I put on the car.

I cannot lower the car other than using HFP suspension components because I already have rubbing issues with my fender arches if the car is heavy ( cargo loaded ). I am still on my stock OEM suspension as I write this.

Good luck with whichever avenue you take, but IMO going wider on wheels is not going to be healthy.
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Rubbing on the fender arches or the struts? I would stick to the stock wheel sizes and get better rubber. The 17x7JJ wheels are a good moderation for traction. You are looking for trouble if you go wider with lowering springs because you will shred on both sides.

For instance, I am running my stock 17x7JJ Enkei wheels on my 2010 FA5 with 1" wheel spacers ( H&R DRM Spacers ) so my stock wheels will clear the wider FD2 R callipers I put on the car.

I cannot lower the car other than using HFP suspension components because I already have rubbing issues with my fender arches if the car is heavy ( cargo loaded ). I am still on my stock OEM suspension as I write this.

Good luck with whichever avenue you take, but IMO going wider on wheels is not going to be healthy.
rubbing tires on the rear quarter panel. both sides. rubbed at first on the front fenders but I just rolled them back a little. I might put my oem wheels back on. What size tire should I run with the Koni orange shocks? And if I keep the axis og rims on will it be fine with the Koni orange shocks?
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17x10, that's pretty wide. You are ensuring that you don't rub the inside wheel edges on your suspension components, right?
to my knowledge they just rub the tires on the rear quarter panel. how could I check just lift it up and look at the inside of the wheel?
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rubbing tires on the rear quarter panel. both sides. rubbed at first on the front fenders but I just rolled them back a little. I might put my oem wheels back on. What size tire should I run with the Koni orange shocks? And if I keep the axis og rims on will it be fine with the Koni orange shocks?
If the Koni orange shocks have the same ride height and travel length of the OEM shocks, then rolling the rear fenders will have the same effect and clearance as the front now. Shouldn't be an issue. OEM wheel fitment will have no rubbing issues.

I am not well versed in aftermarket suspension systems and as such, my advice is to remain OEM or test fit all of your options if this can be done.

It took me a year to complete the brake install on my FA5 because I had to research every component and make sure that they were compatible with my suspension and hubs.

There are answers to your questions, believe me. I am just not the best source for those answers.
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to my knowledge they just rub the tires on the rear quarter panel. how could I check just lift it up and look at the inside of the wheel?
You will have to lift the car or at least each corner in turn and check for paint removal/rubber shaves on the suspension components as well as look at the sidewalls of the tires themselves for indications of which sides are rubbing.

My outer sidewalls on my stock Michelins are indicating rubs from my fenders and I have to replace the fender liner lock buttons on both sides due to them being ripped off from contact with my tires over bumps.
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I looked at the Koni website. The orange system looks to be comparable to the stock OEM system. It does show a tighter compression/ rebound curve, but the tell-all will be the springs you choose. Are you keeping with OEM spring rates and lengths? Or are you looking at a mild drop ( 1" all four corners ) or are you going low ( 2+ inches each corner )?
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If the Koni orange shocks have the same ride height and travel length of the OEM shocks, then rolling the rear fenders will have the same effect and clearance as the front now. Shouldn't be an issue. OEM wheel fitment will have no rubbing issues.

I am not well versed in aftermarket suspension systems and as such, my advice is to remain OEM or test fit all of your options if this can be done.

It took me a year to complete the brake install on my FA5 because I had to research every component and make sure that they were compatible with my suspension and hubs.

There are answers to your questions, believe me. I am just not the best source for those answers.
that's why I contemplate putting the oem wheels back on. and I know they are lol I'm thankful for the help.
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You will have to lift the car or at least each corner in turn and check for paint removal/rubber shaves on the suspension components as well as look at the sidewalls of the tires themselves for indications of which sides are rubbing.

My outer sidewalls on my stock Michelins are indicating rubs from my fenders and I have to replace the fender liner lock buttons on both sides due to them being ripped off from contact with my tires over bumps.
ok thanks for letting me know. this will decide if I go back to my oem rims.
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I looked at the Koni website. The orange system looks to be comparable to the stock OEM system. It does show a tighter compression/ rebound curve, but the tell-all will be the springs you choose. Are you keeping with OEM spring rates and lengths? Or are you looking at a mild drop ( 1" all four corners ) or are you going low ( 2+ inches each corner )?
I'm currently riding on K&W coilovers. Lowered a little bit, but not slammed. I like for it to be a little low, but it's kinda risky to go slammed on these east texas roads. In the city its an ok thing. but in these smaller towns the roads are trash. I'll post a pic later and you all can see my hellafail 8th gen lol. rebuilding the front end as well. but that's besides the point. I'm deciding what shocks to go with. I'm bringing this car back to life.
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I'm currently riding on K&W coilovers. Lowered a little bit, but not slammed. I like for it to be a little low, but it's kinda risky to go slammed on these east texas roads. In the city its an ok thing. but in these smaller towns the roads are trash. I'll post a pic later and you all can see my hellafail 8th gen lol. rebuilding the front end as well. but that's besides the point. I'm deciding what shocks to go with. I'm bringing this car back to life.

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wow excuse me guys.... I'm just now starting to understand the suspension better. Im thinking eibach pro kit lowering springs. 1 inch in the front. 1.2 inches in the rear. then koni STR.T orange shocks all around. sound good?
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Sounds good.
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Here's a picture of my stock front end with the Type R calipers installed. S2K front rotors.
The H&R spacers kept the treads under the fenders, just.
1" DRM spacers from H&R. Well worth the investment. I put them on all four corners.
The suspension is still stock. The HFP wheels are my summer wheels. I run the OEM Enkei wheels with Michelin X-Ice I3 tires for the winter.
Overhead shot showing the tires figment with the spacers.
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you can go lower then that... rubbing can from more then one source.

If you having rubbing issues tire and wheel size can affect this but also offset and also maybe not enough camber.

I had 17x9 with 225 RS3 all around with a 35 offset and I was 2.5" lower. I did raise my suspension to be about 2.0" low in the front and 1.75" low in the rear.

My camber is also at -3.75 in the front and -3 in the rear. Never had a rubbing issue... also when I had the 255 in the front.
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