The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
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is paddy lowe going to leave Mercedes?
And can you read the word "honestly" without hearing it in your head in Sebastian Vettel's voice? Same with Obviously...
And can you read the word "honestly" without hearing it in your head in Sebastian Vettel's voice? Same with Obviously...
Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
2017 will mark the first time since 1976 that none of Michael Schumacher's future or former teammates will be competing in F1.
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Please forgive me for still thinking about the end of 2016...I've read and followed a bit the end game of the season at Abu Dhabi and found myself easily comfortable with how Hamilton drove the end of the race trying to back Nico up into trouble. BUT as I was found myself thinking about it today, I'm taking a little bit more out of how both Rosberg and Hamilton drove that last race. I think Rosberg's pass on Verstappen was great racing and demonstrated Rosberg's determination and pure racing spirit. Hamilton's race by contrast was pure rationality and calculation - no spirit. What could Hamilton have done differently? He could have driven like Gilles Villeneuve would have - FLAT OUT - and set the fastest lap of the race at the maximum gap over Rosberg to demonstrate, even in Rosberg's moment of victory, that it was he who was truly the dominant driver of this day and these times. But no, however consummate he might be, and he is obviously, he is not That. And so he holds no place in my heart, however much I respect him.
Scott, who doesn't like what F1 has become...but doesn't care that much about any race that I or my friends are not in...
Scott, who doesn't like what F1 has become...but doesn't care that much about any race that I or my friends are not in...
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I'll bite:
He tried to do that throughout the season, but ultimately when the title was at stake, he had no other option than to do what he did. In hindsight, he might have tried to force Rosberg into a mistake in the previous races thus allowing him to drive off in the finale.
Tim, who didn't watch more than a few laps of a handful of races this year.
He could have driven like Gilles Villeneuve would have - FLAT OUT - and set the fastest lap of the race at the maximum gap over Rosberg to demonstrate, even in Rosberg's moment of victory, that it was he who was truly the dominant driver of this day and these times.
Tim, who didn't watch more than a few laps of a handful of races this year.
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Ham backing him up into the pack certainly made AbDhab more entertaining. I agree with Tim2179 that he shouldn't have waited until the last race to pull that move, but I guess Merc would've been wise to it and had longer to come up with a mitigation for it should they thought Ham was being uncouth.
hindsight: He need to **** with him in Brazil, when he was already on the fritz.
Esty, who watches all the laps of all the races, and can't explain why.
hindsight: He need to **** with him in Brazil, when he was already on the fritz.
Esty, who watches all the laps of all the races, and can't explain why.
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Re: The Official Formula 1 2017 Season Thread
1st batch of new Dinner with Racers podcasts are up. 2nd batch will be released on December 16th
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So Bottas to Merc then? Makes the most sense to me. Why would Merc take Werhlein if even Force Silverstone didn't want him?
Although I guess Paddy Lowe is free to go where ever he wants anyways since he's out of contract. But Merc could always trump (no pun) the Williams' offer by adding moar pounds (not lbm or lbf) to it and keeping him out of spites?
Although I guess Paddy Lowe is free to go where ever he wants anyways since he's out of contract. But Merc could always trump (no pun) the Williams' offer by adding moar pounds (not lbm or lbf) to it and keeping him out of spites?
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Oh bee tee double u, James Allen posted a good article of the Williams delema. To keep Bo77as or not. I'd link you but I trust you internets will find it easily.
I'd send him to Merc and get the money, followed by signing Nasr, and getting moar money. Car > midfield Bo77as any day.
I'd send him to Merc and get the money, followed by signing Nasr, and getting moar money. Car > midfield Bo77as any day.
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Max breaks record for most overtakes in a season doe.
Max Verstappen this year completed the most overtaking moves by a single Formula 1 driver in a single season since the data was first collected in 1983, according to Pirelli.
The tyre supplier complied a list of statistics for the campaign and noted Verstappen achieved 78 passes in what was a record 21-race F1 season.
Verstappen also topped the tally in his rookie 2015 season with Toro Rosso, with 49 overtaking moves across 19 grands prix.
Pirelli says it considers an overtaking move as one "that takes place during complete flying laps (so not on the opening lap) and is then maintained all the way to the lap's finish line".
It adds "position changes due to major mechanical problems or lapping/unlapping are not counted".
It comes after the 19-year-old won the FIA's 'Action of the Year' award for the third year in a row, for his move on Nico Rosberg during the Brazilian Grand Prix.
Verstappen admitted during his 2015 rookie season that practising overtaking moves on a computer game was helping his attack on track.
Reflecting on the 2016 season, which included his maiden F1 win on his first weekend with Red Bull in Spain, Verstappen said: "I'm pretty positive.
"I didn't expect the season to go like this, that I would be at Red Bull and would have won a race and has such memorable races as well. I can't complain.
"It's very positive and some good moments that I learned from, so that's a good start for next year when hopefully the car and engine will improve again."
Pirelli said Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton completed the most overtaking manoeuvres in a single race with 18 in the Chinese GP, which he started from the back.
It added Sebastian Vettel was the driver who was overtaken the least, just once - when Verstappen passed him in Brazil for fifth.
Fernando Alonso gained the most positions on the opening laps of races, with 41 in his McLaren-Honda.
In total, Pirelli recorded 866 passes during the season, with an average of 41.2 per race, based on its criteria.
The tyre supplier complied a list of statistics for the campaign and noted Verstappen achieved 78 passes in what was a record 21-race F1 season.
Verstappen also topped the tally in his rookie 2015 season with Toro Rosso, with 49 overtaking moves across 19 grands prix.
Pirelli says it considers an overtaking move as one "that takes place during complete flying laps (so not on the opening lap) and is then maintained all the way to the lap's finish line".
It adds "position changes due to major mechanical problems or lapping/unlapping are not counted".
It comes after the 19-year-old won the FIA's 'Action of the Year' award for the third year in a row, for his move on Nico Rosberg during the Brazilian Grand Prix.
Verstappen admitted during his 2015 rookie season that practising overtaking moves on a computer game was helping his attack on track.
Reflecting on the 2016 season, which included his maiden F1 win on his first weekend with Red Bull in Spain, Verstappen said: "I'm pretty positive.
"I didn't expect the season to go like this, that I would be at Red Bull and would have won a race and has such memorable races as well. I can't complain.
"It's very positive and some good moments that I learned from, so that's a good start for next year when hopefully the car and engine will improve again."
Pirelli said Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton completed the most overtaking manoeuvres in a single race with 18 in the Chinese GP, which he started from the back.
It added Sebastian Vettel was the driver who was overtaken the least, just once - when Verstappen passed him in Brazil for fifth.
Fernando Alonso gained the most positions on the opening laps of races, with 41 in his McLaren-Honda.
In total, Pirelli recorded 866 passes during the season, with an average of 41.2 per race, based on its criteria.
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According to well placed sources, it has been hinted that former RedBull F-1 driver, Mark Webber, is under serious consideration for the now vacant seat at Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team.