99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
11-02-2016, 04:44 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Where did you buy the distributor that is on the car, or was it on there when you bought the car.
If you bought it at an auto parts store and tell them it is defective, but you want to upgrade to the Hitachi distributor, they will usually allow you to do that, you would just have to pay the price difference
If you bought it at an auto parts store and tell them it is defective, but you want to upgrade to the Hitachi distributor, they will usually allow you to do that, you would just have to pay the price difference
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11-02-2016, 05:14 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Where did you buy the distributor that is on the car, or was it on there when you bought the car.
If you bought it at an auto parts store and tell them it is defective, but you want to upgrade to the Hitachi distributor, they will usually allow you to do that, you would just have to pay the price difference
If you bought it at an auto parts store and tell them it is defective, but you want to upgrade to the Hitachi distributor, they will usually allow you to do that, you would just have to pay the price difference
Thanks for the part number.
11-02-2016, 05:17 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Like mentioned last night, cylinder 3 and 4 misfire. This morning, cleaned out the plugs and tried again. No good.
I can not hear the clicking on the fuel injectors 3 and 4. I can hear them on 1 & 2.
So now time to chase that issue? Will do some own research and look out for your feedback and ideas.
Will head out to work now.
I can not hear the clicking on the fuel injectors 3 and 4. I can hear them on 1 & 2.
So now time to chase that issue? Will do some own research and look out for your feedback and ideas.
Will head out to work now.
11-02-2016, 05:58 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Congratulations on finally getting it started! You're in the home stretch now. Check that with the key in the ON position, you have 12v to each of the injector connectors. If you do, replace the injectors that aren't working and you should be golden. If you don't have 12v, then check the wiring. Since two injectors are working correctly, I'm assuming it's not the fuse.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on the key position, it should give 12v to the injectors, correct?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on the key position, it should give 12v to the injectors, correct?
11-02-2016, 06:14 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
You should have 12 volts to the injectors with the key on even if not running. However if it does run, do the test running. One end of each injector coil is connected to the continuous 12 volts. The ECU drives the other end of the coil to ground to open the injector. A common test is the "noid light". Take a #194 bulb (used in corner lights, license plate light, etc) and bend the wires straight out away from the glass. Unplug an injector and put the bulb wires into the plug contacts. The bulb should flash when the engine is cranking or running.
11-02-2016, 06:43 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
That seems easy enough to do. I have a multi meter so I won't strip any bulbs, though I may have some spares somewhere. More on that later in the day.
11-02-2016, 06:45 AM
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And with regard to the current distributor, am I correct that the engine previously ran fine with this distributor?
Definitely start by checking for voltage on #3 and #4 injectors. You may be getting close now.
11-02-2016, 06:47 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Just wanted to give a huge shout out and thanks to all of the gracious contributors here. I have learned a lot and my confidence has grown more than I thought. I would like to do my part, and contribute when I can. I may not have much to offer, but I can certainly share what "not" to do based on my experiences. 
(that can be an asset too).
Cheers to all of you who take the time to help out.
(that can be an asset too). Cheers to all of you who take the time to help out.
11-02-2016, 06:47 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Any excess oil you put in the cylinders will clear out after running a short time, even if that cylinder doesn't fire.
The injectors are driven with short pulses that often don't register well on a digital meter. Using a bulb makes the result clearer.
I will mention one big thing NOT to do here is disconnect any of the spark plug wires with the engine running. That puts a lot of stress on the coil and can blow it out. To identify dead cylinders, unplug the fuel injectors one at a time instead.
The injectors are driven with short pulses that often don't register well on a digital meter. Using a bulb makes the result clearer.
I will mention one big thing NOT to do here is disconnect any of the spark plug wires with the engine running. That puts a lot of stress on the coil and can blow it out. To identify dead cylinders, unplug the fuel injectors one at a time instead.
11-02-2016, 06:51 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
And your are correct, this distributor did run fine prior to my "tune up".
11-02-2016, 06:52 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Any excess oil you put in the cylinders will clear out after running a short time, even if that cylinder doesn't fire.
The injectors are driven with short pulses that often don't register well on a digital meter. Using a bulb makes the result clearer.
I will mention one big thing NOT to do here is disconnect any of the spark plug wires with the engine running. That puts a lot of stress on the coil and can blow it out. To identify dead cylinders, unplug the fuel injectors one at a time instead.
The injectors are driven with short pulses that often don't register well on a digital meter. Using a bulb makes the result clearer.
I will mention one big thing NOT to do here is disconnect any of the spark plug wires with the engine running. That puts a lot of stress on the coil and can blow it out. To identify dead cylinders, unplug the fuel injectors one at a time instead.
Bulb it is.
And yes, didn't know about the plugs but didn't do it and will not do it in future.
11-02-2016, 07:18 AM
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During my previous Wet compression test, I might have put more oil than necessary (just got carried away). The gauge would not release pressure when the release valve was pressed that is why I inferred that too much oil got into that well. The release valve got stuck the second time around as well (didn't do Wet test this time)
And your are correct, this distributor did run fine prior to my "tune up".
And your are correct, this distributor did run fine prior to my "tune up".
There must be a lot of oil in #4. You may want to look in the cylinder to see how much oil is there.
With regard to the injector issue, you may want to start with simple possible issues. For example, maybe the #3 and #4 injector clips are not fully seated.
11-02-2016, 07:37 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
I removed and re-seated the injector clips without any change. Also, removed the harness and replaced it in the hope that some loose connection would snap back in. But looks like there is little more troubleshooting here.
Should I start another thread for this issue? I am thinking about some John Doe doing a search in the future for no pulse on injectors and looking for answers/suggestions buried in relatively unrelated thread.
11-02-2016, 07:53 AM
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How can I mop up this "oil spill" in that cylinder? Push a rag in? Is that safe?
I removed and re-seated the injector clips without any change. Also, removed the harness and replaced it in the hope that some loose connection would snap back in. But looks like there is little more troubleshooting here.
Should I start another thread for this issue? I am thinking about some John Doe doing a search in the future for no pulse on injectors and looking for answers/suggestions buried in relatively unrelated thread.
I removed and re-seated the injector clips without any change. Also, removed the harness and replaced it in the hope that some loose connection would snap back in. But looks like there is little more troubleshooting here.
Should I start another thread for this issue? I am thinking about some John Doe doing a search in the future for no pulse on injectors and looking for answers/suggestions buried in relatively unrelated thread.
Start by looking for whether oil is pooled in the cylinder. If so, maybe try aspirating the excess oil using a bulb syringe with some tubing? Other members may have better ideas.
11-02-2016, 09:07 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Where did you buy the distributor that is on the car, or was it on there when you bought the car.
If you bought it at an auto parts store and tell them it is defective, but you want to upgrade to the Hitachi distributor, they will usually allow you to do that, you would just have to pay the price difference
If you bought it at an auto parts store and tell them it is defective, but you want to upgrade to the Hitachi distributor, they will usually allow you to do that, you would just have to pay the price difference
11-02-2016, 09:15 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
@Chrysler
Here is one distributor (from another seller on eBay) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Distributor-fits-Honda-Civic-1999-2000-1-6-SOHC-Replaces-Tec-Built-TD73U-/171771865688?hash=item27fe66aa58#vi-ilComp which is compatible with my vehicle. However, the harness is different.
I am recalling now that I had to swap out the harness from my old unit to make it fit. I will need to do with this one again, unless you tell me something different.
Here is one distributor (from another seller on eBay) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Distributor-fits-Honda-Civic-1999-2000-1-6-SOHC-Replaces-Tec-Built-TD73U-/171771865688?hash=item27fe66aa58#vi-ilComp which is compatible with my vehicle. However, the harness is different.
I am recalling now that I had to swap out the harness from my old unit to make it fit. I will need to do with this one again, unless you tell me something different.
11-02-2016, 09:20 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Nope, that previous link was incorrect - they generalized the vehicle compatibility. That is why the plug was different and also why it was so cheap. here are two others.
1. Distributor WAI DST17485 fits 96-00 Honda Civic 1.6L-L4
2.Cardone Industries 84-17485 New Distributor | eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cardone-Indu...=mtr#vi-ilComp
1. Distributor WAI DST17485 fits 96-00 Honda Civic 1.6L-L4
2.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cardone-Indu...=mtr#vi-ilComp
11-02-2016, 09:28 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Here's an aftermarket distributor. I can't vouch for quality.
32-00007 Ignition Distributor, 32-00007 Ignition Distributor Sale - BuyAutoParts.com
32-00007 Ignition Distributor, 32-00007 Ignition Distributor Sale - BuyAutoParts.com
11-02-2016, 11:05 AM
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Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start
Brand New Complete Ignition Distributor W/ Cap & Rotor Fits Honda Civic Hx eBay
@Ron:
Thanks. I got the above matching distributor with the part no. from your link. They have eBay store also
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-CO...xX~uDl&vxp=mtr
Although, I may not buy that unless I have to.