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99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start

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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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See behind the white paint mark on my belt there is a dash on the head that says pc2, yeah it's that dash for cam alignment on the right side of the cam
Chrysler, is this the marking you were referring to?
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:56 PM
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Looks good.

How does the rear mark on the cam pulley look?
At it's present position, the gun sight is just past the last white mark.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:57 PM
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Cam pulley not crank pulley
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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At it's present position, the gun sight is just past the last white mark.

Yeah we see that with the crank, now we need to see the cam gear is also at its alignment marks

So with the crank line in the gun sights is the cam close to its timing marks, and yes that is one of the marks for the cam gear, the white stripe should line up to that
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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If you have the crank line in the gun sight but the cam pulley is way off you will need to rotate the crank again to get the crank gear back in the gun sight, then check the cam timing points.

Some times it can take up to 6turns of the crank to get both the cam and crank pulley to line up at their marks, or at least close to them

It's a pain in the ***.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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The indent on cam pulley is aligned with the marking on left side.
From what i see, the gun sight is right on the white.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:13 PM
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Yessir. It's on point.

I'm positive you had a bad compression tester especially since it would not release pressure from the readings. They can get gunked up and give incorrect readings


Now go buy the right distributor
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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We won't be able confidently to verify TDC1 on the cam unless you show a picture of the rear mark aligned with the top of the head.

The arrows on the lower timing belt cover are not alignment marks.

There's no need to buy a new distributor at this point.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:26 PM
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Cam pulley with the indents marked out. Is that TDC? I do happen to have a distributor that looks like Chrysler picture. If it comes to that.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:28 PM
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Chrysler, please confirm this looks like the right one.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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We won't be able confidently to verify TDC1 on the cam unless you show a picture of the rear mark aligned with the top of the head.
Where is this? Let me try another picture to see if that is what you mean?
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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The cam is close, but I've seen nothing that demonstrates that the cam is set perfectly at TDC1. I've posted multiple times how to demonstrate TDC1. That's all I can do.

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Where is this? Let me try another picture to see if that is what you mean?
Read my previous posts. I won't continue to repeat myself. Your pictures only have shown the front cam marks.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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Yes that is the correct Hitachi distributor.

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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:35 PM
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Ron: Is this it?
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:43 PM
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This one?
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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The cam pulley has a front and rear side.

I'm really trying to help you, but I don't think you're reading my posts for comprehension.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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Default Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start

Originally Posted by RonJ
The cam pulley has a front and rear side.

I'm really trying to help you, but I don't think your reading my posts for comprehension.
Front = towards the head lights
Rear = towards the firewall?

I do appreciate your help. Just little trouble at my end understanding what you mean.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:50 PM
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My previous post:

Originally Posted by RonJ
Your pictures only have shown the front cam marks.

The two marks you see on the front of the cam pulley are also duplicated on the rear of the pulley.

Remove the valve cove to see them.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Default Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start

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My previous post:




There two marks you see on the front of the cam pulley are duplicated on the rear of the pulley.

Ron

The cam does not align to the cylinder head, it aligns to the points. You are referring to the wrong manual

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Ron

The cam does not align to the cylinder head, it aligns to the points. You are referring to the wrong manual

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Please refer to the 96-00 Honda Civic service manual that includes the D16Y5 engine in the HX. You'll find these:







Please post anything as official as the 96-00 Honda Civic service manual that says differently.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 99 Civic HX CVT Stock: First no crank, and now cranks but won't start

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The two marks you see on the front of the cam pulley are also duplicated on the rear of the pulley.

Remove the valve cove to see them.
Towards head lights
Towards firewall.
Looks TDC to me, agree?
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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Please refer to the 96-00 Civic service manual that includes the D16Y5 engine in the HX. You'll find these:







Please post anything as official as the 96-00 Honda Civic service manual that says differently.


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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Remove large whiteout over the mark nearest the headlights so that only the mark shows. Lay a thin flat object atop the head surface near the mark. How well does mark align with the flat object?

Also, if you turned the crank pulley CW rather than CCW even a small amount to achieve TDC1, then you must repeat the TDC1 set procedure again.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 07:16 PM
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If this^ write up did not use the mechanical timing alignment in the service manual, then it's not to be trusted.
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 07:26 PM
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Both marks seem to align to the ruler. The picture is not able to discern, but i can clearly see the grooves.
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