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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Did anyone see before the race some lady stroking the hair of the guy in front of her?
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Sainz says penalty for forcing Alonso off track was 'harsh' - F1 - Autosport

Sainz was penalised five seconds for moving across on fellow Spaniard Alonso as they exited Turn 3 on the opening lap, forcing the McLaren driver onto the grass, which nearly caused him to spin.
If we change Sainz to Versenna and Alonso to Rosberg and Turn 3 to Turn 1 we have more or less the same scenario. Just ridiculous. The stewards need to decide to either call everything or call nothing. I'm fine with either way but this selective penalizing is just garbage.

I suppose part of the problem is the revolving stewards door. Maybe they need to pick a group of stewards and use them for the entire season.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Did anyone see before the race some lady stroking the hair of the guy in front of her?
yeah i saw it glad they cut away
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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Elf split from Williams after the 1996 season. Castrol came aboard in 1997.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 07:47 AM
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Elf/Total involvement in F1 has not been continuous sine the late 60s but it seems that every time there has been a Renault factory team Elf/Total has been the fuel/lubricants.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:23 AM
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I always enjoy reading Mr. Toet's posts. Not sure if anyone saw or posted this...

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/formu...mp-reader-card
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:25 AM
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Toro Rosso had CEPSA as their lube when they ran Renault engines. I think they use Shell now because of the Ferrari engines.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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I always enjoy reading Mr. Toet's posts. Not sure if anyone saw or posted this...

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/formu...mp-reader-card
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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That helped me understand the F-duct concept, especially with the airflow highlighted.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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oh that is killer, forgot to check for updates since his double diffuser post (which i finally kind of understand)
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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That helped me understand the F-duct concept, especially with the airflow highlighted.
He is excellent at explaining the technical stuff. Apparently he teaches classes/gives lectures at a university somewhere in the UK. Wood love to be able to attend some of them.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 08:34 AM
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oh that is killer, forgot to check for updates since his double diffuser post (which i finally kind of understand)
That was an outstanding post. I always had a token grasp of what the DD was about but that post he did about it cleared everything up.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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I have another reason for wanting ROS to win the WDC. Lots of people gonna blow a gasket. Over on F1T the race threads have become HAM fan boys vs Anti HAM fan boys. Recently 1 post going off on ROS mentions all the HAM DNFs. Ok fair point but then the poster goes on to argue that the poor starts were not HAM's fault. Really? He can't figure out the clutch and ROS can so who's fault is it? Toto? Lauda? Give me a break.

I wonder what the mechanical DNF stats of HAM vs ROS from the time they have been together at Merc are.
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ROS/HAM mech. failures are close, but HAM had more this year
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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ROS
Australia 2013 - Electrical
Hungary 2013 - Engine
Britain 2014 - Gearbox
Singapore 2014 - Electrical
Abu Dhabi 2014 - ERS (he finished but out of points)
Italy 2015 - Engine
Russia 2015 - Throttle

HAM
Australia 2014 - Engine
Canada 2014 - Brakes
Singapore 2015 - Engine
Malaysia 2016 - Engine


Now that does not take into account incompetent boobery pre race (in other words a lot of HAM's issues this year have compromised his race in qualifying). Nor does it take into account crashes that may or may not have been the driver's fault. I was only looking for things that are most likely out of the driver's hands. What it tells me is 1 team in the Merc stable seems to be affected by issues (even back to the days with MSchu). Again it's a quick look at one parameter, interpret the results in whatever fashion you please.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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If Rosberg's ERS was fitted to HAM for Ab Dab 2014, Britney would already be a WDC. It goes both ways.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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If Rosberg's ERS was fitted to HAM for Ab Dab 2014, Britney would already be a WDC. It goes both ways.
You know that, I know that, Falcon knows that, erryone else in here knows that (I think blue is suspect) but some of the HAMfanatics cannot be reasoned with lol.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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If Rosberg's ERS was fitted to HAM for Ab Dab 2014, Britney would already be a WDC. It goes both ways.
Yee.

I'm hoping for a ROS win this weekend. Brazil seems to suit him. He's won the last two and HAM has never won there. Lets lock this one up and focus on 2017.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:29 AM
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Anyone else not looking forward to the 2017 cars? I am used to the current ones...and I hate the slanted rear wing crap...reminds me of A1GP.



Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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I think overall they are going to look better than what we have now. Yeah I don't like the slanted RWEP or the swept FW but the wider tyres and moar open PU regs...bring it. I'm a little less enthused for the areo increase, though still positive about it. As for the more aero means less overtaking arguement...there wasn't an overtake in the last 10 laps between VES/VET/RIC and yet that was very exciting. Overtaking =/ excitement.
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i am not looking forward to another aero formula for the top teams to exploit

and i am not used to the current cars
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there wasn't an overtake in the last 10 laps between VES/VET/RIC and yet that was very exciting. Overtaking =/ excitement.
the issue is more aero = less close racing, passing or not

the whole formula needs to be turned upside down so that lead cars can't just get clear and turn the engine down like yesterday.

this would be a piece of cake with active wings and less dependence on diffusers...but that would threaten the top team's domination so we can't innovate unless it consolidates their position.
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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I still think they need to add success ballast, add X kg for each point you score and you carry it for x races. Would make the races SO much more exciting to watch...
Old Oct 31, 2016 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by falcongsr
i am not looking forward to another aero formula for the top teams to exploit

and i am not used to the current cars
At least with aero teams can continue to develop it (I realize the lesser funded teams do get shafted) as opposed to the PU regs now where Merc's advantage is locked in. How I really wish the FIA would fix the wealth distribution system which somewhat would lessen the burden on the smaller teams.



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